Brexit Fallout

And even Jacob R-M's 'rough five years' are up now. And things are far, far rougher than even pessimists predicted. I'd like to hear Keir Starmer being a bit more robust about the disaster of Brexit.

The Canadian deal hasn’t broken down they have both agreed to a pause.
A spokesman said they are both still hopeful for a deal.
One stumbling point was our refusal to accept hormone injected beef, nothing wrong with that.

The eu/Canada deal took 9 years. But that didn’t go smoothly.
Just when both parties had pens poised the walloons threw a spanner in the works.

The cheese manufacturers have already had to add the tariff charge to their cheese, my point being that the U.K. simply does not have the economic clout it had to maintain the sort of agreement we had as a member of the EU and are trying to negotiate.

We will never have such good agreements because we are tiny compared to the EU.

Groan, this old record being played again?
My Mum has no probs getting her diabetic type2 meds, I know cos I pick them up for her.
All this years down the line bellyaching has to stop at some point, it’s like some just enjoy being prophets of doom.
I didn’t vote for it but more people did and I accept that.Have to say I haven’t noticed anything changing since then.The pandemic was the worst thing and thank God that’s over.

It took Canada and the EU a long 7 years to sort their trade agreement out.

The Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) is a free-trade deal between Canada and the EU. CETA was negotiated between 2009 and 2014 and signed by Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, in Brussels on 30 October 2016, before the European Parliament approved the deal in February 2017.22

Oreo

Groan, this old record being played again?
My Mum has no probs getting her diabetic type2 meds, I know cos I pick them up for her.
All this years down the line bellyaching has to stop at some point, it’s like some just enjoy being prophets of doom.
I didn’t vote for it but more people did and I accept that.Have to say I haven’t noticed anything changing since then.The pandemic was the worst thing and thank God that’s over.

There is no denying that the drugs issue is real though Oreo. All countries are having problems with supply of certain drugs, but we don’t have the price negotiating clout that we would have done as part of the EU. I’m not as pessimistic as some regarding supply, but what we will have to do is pay more than the EU does to ensure we get them, which is an inflationary pressure.

winterwhite

And even Jacob R-M's 'rough five years' are up now. And things are far, far rougher than even pessimists predicted. I'd like to hear Keir Starmer being a bit more robust about the disaster of Brexit.

Why would he do that at this point winterwhite. Have you not noticed we have an election coming up? Brexit is unlikely to be on the menu - except as a criticism of the cack-handed Tories.

After and if they win, working toward being a part of strong outer economic ring around the EU will be able to be moved forward and hopefully the stupidity of an extreme Brexit will never be mentioned again.

the line bellyaching has to stop at some point

Can’t see why. It’s important that those who want to reverse or ameliorate the decision to leave continue to campaign and inform on relevant matters.

The obvious comparison is with those who wished to leave and who persevered for 40 years.

Brexit simply hasn’t worked - so why on Earth would we ignore that fact?

Starmer is more sensible than that I hope.

Whitewavemark2

Brexit simply hasn’t worked - so why on Earth would we ignore that fact?

Because it would make Leave voters lives more comfortable if we did?

Democracy has simply passed by the people who keep saying it Siope. After all not allowing a vote means they want to turn us into a dictatorship. But then, if we have learned nothing else over the last 14 years, that is exactly what a small proportion do want.

😄 yes I guess so, but why if they are happy to see the economy less robust as a result of Brexit do they bother with these threads? I wouldn’t. I can happily ignore thread that I think are not for me.

Galaxy

Starmer is more sensible than that I hope.

More "sensible" than what Galaxy?

Than to bring Brexit into an election campaign.

Yes, I think he is.

Being sensible is underrated in politics

Yes I agree - he is being sensible about a lot of stuff, which must frustrate the right wing press who are resorting to trying to suggesting the most ridiculous things relating to his previous career.

I agree that Starmer is being sensible, but that doesn't stop other people talking about it, does it?

Galaxy

Being sensible is underrated in politics

Oh, so much

Whitewavemark2

Brexit simply hasn’t worked - so why on Earth would we ignore that fact?

I belong to the European Movement Organisation but I despair that we will ever actually rejoin, despite the fact that there is now a majority in favour of doing so.. I have alsohad to change some medications because of shortages..

"Happy 4th birthday Brexit"

Jonty Bloom, writing in The New European

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/happy-fourth-birthday-brexit/?utm_source=The+New+European+Newsletter&utm_campaign=b3afeafca5-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2024_01_25_07_59&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c4286598f9-b3afeafca5-274920336&mc_cid=b3afeafca5&mc_eid=cdcbb36c0b

Hormone fed beef cattle imported from Canada? No thanks! Apart JRM who I’m sure thinks it’s fine.

Siope

*the line bellyaching has to stop at some point*

Can’t see why. It’s important that those who want to reverse or ameliorate the decision to leave continue to campaign and inform on relevant matters.

The obvious comparison is with those who wished to leave and who persevered for 40 years.

The obvious comparison is with those who wished to leave and who persevered for 40 years.

Quite! You could say bellyaching at its finest - which would be rather childish.

What I don't understand is why some people seem to think it should no longer be discussed. It's effects are still being felt by various individuals, businesses - the effect on a musician friend of mine and his ability to tour in Europe with his small opera group has been pretty problematic. Plus the fact that negotiations are far from being finalised. It's still a work in progress.

The negotiations will shape our nation for decades so why the heck should it not be discussed?

And specifically, on GN, if posters see "Brexit" as the topic, and it makes them "groan" - why not just scroll past it?

Why does it make some feel so uncomfortable?