Brexit Fallout

MaizieD

Got it.

There is an alternative explanation

This failure to take responsibility for their failed project is now endemic. The latest trade figures show that the percentage of UK trade done with the EU is now higher than before the referendum, at about 53.3%. Cue for many to declare that this showed Project Fear disproven and Brexit justified once again (see, for example, many of the responses to this Tweet). But it means nothing of the sort. The explanation is that growth in trade with non-EU countries has been weaker than with the EU. This is the exact opposite of the central Brexiter proposition about trade, which is that the EU has a declining share of world economic growth and so, ‘unshackled from the corpse’ of the ‘EU protectionist racket’, the UK would re-orientate towards the fast-growing areas of the world.

chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2024/01/brexit-has-embedded-dishonesty-in.html

Yes our failure to negotiate any trade deal of worth has been abysmal.

maddyone

I didn’t vote for Brexit, I voted remain. However if a deal with Canada means we have to accept beef that has hormones then I won’t be eating any Canadian beef. The Canadians can keep it!

That was always one of the arguments when looking at Brexit and imported beef/meat amongst millions of other arguments

EU =hormone free

Got it.

There is an alternative explanation

This failure to take responsibility for their failed project is now endemic. The latest trade figures show that the percentage of UK trade done with the EU is now higher than before the referendum, at about 53.3%. Cue for many to declare that this showed Project Fear disproven and Brexit justified once again (see, for example, many of the responses to this Tweet). But it means nothing of the sort. The explanation is that growth in trade with non-EU countries has been weaker than with the EU. This is the exact opposite of the central Brexiter proposition about trade, which is that the EU has a declining share of world economic growth and so, ‘unshackled from the corpse’ of the ‘EU protectionist racket’, the UK would re-orientate towards the fast-growing areas of the world.

chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2024/01/brexit-has-embedded-dishonesty-in.html

I’m very concerned about the shortages of medicines. I’m hoping our government can maintain the needed supplies.

I didn’t vote for Brexit, I voted remain. However if a deal with Canada means we have to accept beef that has hormones then I won’t be eating any Canadian beef. The Canadians can keep it!

facts4eu.org let’s hope this works.

If this is an example of how my day is going to pan out I am off back to bed…

GrannyGravy13

There you are MaizieD I did explore that my iPhone wasn’t playing nicely.

I hope the link is ok (now on laptop)

I do apologise. I missed that bit about your phone.

Sadly there's no link on the post from your laptop. Did you press send too early😆

Don't worry. I'll find it.

*explore 🤦‍♀️ should have been explain

There you are MaizieD I did explore that my iPhone wasn’t playing nicely.

I hope the link is ok (now on laptop)

This extract from their own website tells you all you need to know MaiizeD.
‘NEUTRALITY: Facts4eu.org focuses on information which shows that the UK is better off regaining its independence and growing globally.’
Aka Tory lie spreader.

If one knows how …

I think it would have been polite to have posted a link if one was asked for.

Recovering from cataract surgery and using a magnifying glass to see and type!

MaizieD

Perhaps you'd like to post the link then, ronib?

Just put the address in your search engine, MaizieD

For some reason only known to itself by iPhone is refusing to do links at the moment.

Perhaps you'd like to post the link then, ronib?

Look on the website facts4eu.org

ronib

MaizieD we can make our own trade deals I recall? Not be tied to … blah …

You don't need to quote the nonsense to me, ronib.

But, anyway, how would that have made a material difference? I mean a real, tangible difference to our lives, not a 'feelz' thing about going it alone...

GrannyGravy13

facts4eu.org has an interesting article complete with graphs showing U.K. exports since referendum.

Is it something to do with an increased percentage of exports to the EU, GG13?

A link would be appreciated.

MaizieD we can make our own trade deals I recall? Not be tied to … blah …

ronib

MaizieD banners on buses? £350 million a week saved? Could be spent on the NHS? Does that count as a material difference?

We didn't have to leave the EU in order to fund the NHS better, ronib.

However, you're right, that did create an expectation of a material difference.

That, and the anti-immigration message seem to me to have been the most potent factors, but what other things did the Leave voters think would be materially different? There must have been more than just these two.

I confess that I thought Ug's and Zandinsky's conclusions were quite sad, 'disappointed' and a 'damp squib' after causing so much upheaval.

Greta the delivery was masterful - don’t you recall Boris Johnson in full flow?

facts4eu.org has an interesting article complete with graphs showing U.K. exports since referendum.

"Politicians lie and don't keep their promises/you can't believe a word they say". You often hear comments like those. So why did they believe all the promises made during the referendum?

Badly!

It seems to me that what Brexiters and Trump supporters have in common is they are the are both isolationist. How would that work?