King Charles

Casdon

MissInterpreted

Casdon

MissInterpreted

Anniebach

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

I'm no fan of Harry (or any of the RF, if I'm being totally honest) but I think there's more than a degree of truth in that particular statement.

I don’t think there is. If that were true why did Charles marry Camilla?

If he'd married her in the first place, there probably wouldn't have been a problem. Instead, he married someone who was chosen as a 'suitable' bride and brood mare to provide him with heirs. Throughout history, royal brides were carefully chosen for such 'attributes'. Those lower down the pecking order were usually free to marry whoever they chose.

But he went against the expressed wish of the public and members of his own family ultimately to marry Camilla. If that wasn’t for love, what was it?

Well, maybe he should have married for love in the first place then! Like I say, I'm no fan of the RF, but there are some on here who seriously view them through very rose-tinted glasses!

So not true that Charles and Camilla fell madly in love when young and wanted to marry, much is conveniently ignored to
keep the story going

MissInterpreted

Casdon

MissInterpreted

Anniebach

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

I'm no fan of Harry (or any of the RF, if I'm being totally honest) but I think there's more than a degree of truth in that particular statement.

I don’t think there is. If that were true why did Charles marry Camilla?

If he'd married her in the first place, there probably wouldn't have been a problem. Instead, he married someone who was chosen as a 'suitable' bride and brood mare to provide him with heirs. Throughout history, royal brides were carefully chosen for such 'attributes'. Those lower down the pecking order were usually free to marry whoever they chose.

But he went against the expressed wish of the public and members of his own family ultimately to marry Camilla. If that wasn’t for love, what was it?

I do hope Charles was wired up for the conversation with his youngest son. God knows how it will be used when relayed to wife of "different mould."

Casdon

MissInterpreted

Anniebach

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

I'm no fan of Harry (or any of the RF, if I'm being totally honest) but I think there's more than a degree of truth in that particular statement.

I don’t think there is. If that were true why did Charles marry Camilla?

If he'd married her in the first place, there probably wouldn't have been a problem. Instead, he married someone who was chosen as a 'suitable' bride and brood mare to provide him with heirs. Throughout history, royal brides were carefully chosen for such 'attributes'. Those lower down the pecking order were usually free to marry whoever they chose.

What mould ? Diana was very close to the family.
Sarah had lived with someone before she married Andrew
Sophie and Edward lived together for sometime before marriage
Charles and Camilla
Peter and Autumn

In his book Spare, Harry described Camilla dangerous and a villain who left bodies in the street.

Yes Misinterpreted a bride , mid 30’s, divorced wearing virginal white whilst walking down the aisle doesn’t fit the mould,

MissInterpreted

Anniebach

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

I'm no fan of Harry (or any of the RF, if I'm being totally honest) but I think there's more than a degree of truth in that particular statement.

I don’t think there is. If that were true why did Charles marry Camilla?

Glorianny

Rosie51

I actually think it is quite healthy to say how you feel. about someone. The insidious hints of a fall out indicated by frosty looks, the cold shoulder and a lack of contact, which escalate the problem seem much worse to me.

Except that most people don't go on TV or publish books saying how much they hate their parent's new partner do they? Harry seemed able to accept Camilla when it suited while he was very much a part of the Royal set up. In the same way as Harry is commended for his loyalty to Meghan surely it's to be expected that Charles will show loyalty to Camilla? I wonder what the reaction would be to suggestions that members of the family were willing to meet Harry as long as Meghan didn't come.

Meghan doesn't come, she has the sense to stay away from them. Although I believe she might have come as the Queen was dying but Harry was told she wasn't welcome?
But Camilla has to be there?

When the Queen was dying her children, some of their spouses and only two of her grandchildren made their way there. You really think a granddaughter-in-law of only 2 years should have taken a place when her own blood granddaughters and other grandsons weren't there? Do you think the Queen would have wanted Meghan there in preference to Zara Phillips, or Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie? Obviously the entire family weren't going to descend upon her.

Anniebach

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

I'm no fan of Harry (or any of the RF, if I'm being totally honest) but I think there's more than a degree of truth in that particular statement.

Beyond these anecdotes, in the book and in promotional interviews, Harry has taken his criticism of Camilla much further with statements on her character. He has alleged that Camilla had a calculated agenda to remedy her public image as the “other woman,” one that paved the way for her marriage and eventual Queen Consort title.

Rosie51

^I actually think it is quite healthy to say how you feel. about someone. The insidious hints of a fall out indicated by frosty looks, the cold shoulder and a lack of contact, which escalate the problem seem much worse to me.^

Except that most people don't go on TV or publish books saying how much they hate their parent's new partner do they? Harry seemed able to accept Camilla when it suited while he was very much a part of the Royal set up. In the same way as Harry is commended for his loyalty to Meghan surely it's to be expected that Charles will show loyalty to Camilla? I wonder what the reaction would be to suggestions that members of the family were willing to meet Harry as long as Meghan didn't come.

Can I ask, where on TV or in his book did Harry say ‘how much he hated his father’s new partner’?

I have seen him say they did tell their father not to marry Camilla because they were fine as they were, and also insinuations that Camilla had leaked things to the press, but certainly no mention of hatred.

Meghan betrayed the late Queen, Camilla most certainly did not.

The problem with Harry is the complete breakdown of trust both with family and friends. Fine to air your grievences, but do it in private not on the world stage not in order to make millions of dollars. Ok you don't like your stepmother, but again deal with it as a family matter, in private, not in books and interviews to a world wide audience, again to make money. If my son was doing that to me and I knew that every conversation would possibly be repeated, I would be very very wary of him, and I guess the King is just that. Why would any friend of family member want Harry staying with them when quite possibly conversation will be monetise for the delight of a ready, eager for gossip, audience? Trust has to be rebuilt, that can take much time, goodwill on all sides and even then may prove impossible.

The Queen knew Camilla for many years, Megan for 2 years

Rosie51

^I actually think it is quite healthy to say how you feel. about someone. The insidious hints of a fall out indicated by frosty looks, the cold shoulder and a lack of contact, which escalate the problem seem much worse to me.^

Except that most people don't go on TV or publish books saying how much they hate their parent's new partner do they? Harry seemed able to accept Camilla when it suited while he was very much a part of the Royal set up. In the same way as Harry is commended for his loyalty to Meghan surely it's to be expected that Charles will show loyalty to Camilla? I wonder what the reaction would be to suggestions that members of the family were willing to meet Harry as long as Meghan didn't come.

Meghan doesn't come, she has the sense to stay away from them. Although I believe she might have come as the Queen was dying but Harry was told she wasn't welcome?
But Camilla has to be there?

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

Smileless2012

^I actually think it's quite healthy to say how you feel about someone^ perhaps to your nearest and dearest but not the whole world.

Maybe he said it to them first (I think he says he did) and wasn't really listened to.

I actually think it is quite healthy to say how you feel. about someone. The insidious hints of a fall out indicated by frosty looks, the cold shoulder and a lack of contact, which escalate the problem seem much worse to me.

Except that most people don't go on TV or publish books saying how much they hate their parent's new partner do they? Harry seemed able to accept Camilla when it suited while he was very much a part of the Royal set up. In the same way as Harry is commended for his loyalty to Meghan surely it's to be expected that Charles will show loyalty to Camilla? I wonder what the reaction would be to suggestions that members of the family were willing to meet Harry as long as Meghan didn't come.

I actually think it's quite healthy to say how you feel about someone perhaps to your nearest and dearest but not the whole world.

Maybe Camilla has asked the question of falling out with her stepson on Gransnet. What would her Username be I wonder.

And what would all the advice be?

Maybe.
Ìve never seen Charles criticised (on here) though.

MissAdventure

Harry will be wrong, whatever he does.

Just like his father, then!
Can't do right for doing wrong.

Glorianny

Rosie51

Glorianny

fancythat

Glorianny

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

I see your point.
And I would hope he did.

But in the actual parable, the son was truly sorry for the things he had done. And then his dad forgave him.

And we have no idea what was said. But flying that distance to spend 45mins with someone shows a certain level of commitment.

It's reported the helicopter to take Charles and Camilla to Sandringham was delayed for an hour to accommodate Harry's impromptu visit.

And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many. and do you know that offer wasn't made or are you speculating?

I imagine, given the public airing of his thoughts about Camilla that any visit by Harry is somewhat awkward for all parties. Unless of course Harry is so insensitive as not to consider anyone else's feelings?

I always wonder about this. If your child dislikes your new partner and does not get on with them what do you do? I can understand that some might feel they should accept the new person, but if they don't do you cut them off completely? or accept their opinion and see them on your own?
I actually think it is quite healthy to say how you feel. about someone. The insidious hints of a fall out indicated by frosty looks, the cold shoulder and a lack of contact, which escalate the problem seem much worse to me.

Yes, I’ve often wondered why Harry felt like that about Camilla too, it must have been tough for all of them.