King Charles

Well I do, but not on behalf of other people, particularly if I have no idea how those people feel about it.

Rosie51

Glorianny

fancythat

Glorianny

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

I see your point.
And I would hope he did.

But in the actual parable, the son was truly sorry for the things he had done. And then his dad forgave him.

And we have no idea what was said. But flying that distance to spend 45mins with someone shows a certain level of commitment.

It's reported the helicopter to take Charles and Camilla to Sandringham was delayed for an hour to accommodate Harry's impromptu visit.

And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many. and do you know that offer wasn't made or are you speculating?

I imagine, given the public airing of his thoughts about Camilla that any visit by Harry is somewhat awkward for all parties. Unless of course Harry is so insensitive as not to consider anyone else's feelings?

I always wonder about this. If your child dislikes your new partner and does not get on with them what do you do? I can understand that some might feel they should accept the new person, but if they don't do you cut them off completely? or accept their opinion and see them on your own?
I actually think it is quite healthy to say how you feel. about someone. The insidious hints of a fall out indicated by frosty looks, the cold shoulder and a lack of contact, which escalate the problem seem much worse to me.

Many people find lies and betrayal unacceptable,

Harry will be wrong, whatever he does.

Glorianny

fancythat

Glorianny

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

I see your point.
And I would hope he did.

But in the actual parable, the son was truly sorry for the things he had done. And then his dad forgave him.

And we have no idea what was said. But flying that distance to spend 45mins with someone shows a certain level of commitment.

It does.

Iam64

I skimmed the DM on line earlier. What a nasty rag it is. Stirring hatred and dissent, distorting its ‘news’ to suit whatever agenda suits.
I wish we could shut it down for 6 months, as an experiment. My prediction is we’d be a happier country 🌞

Hear hear, Iam64.

Flying that distance gave him publicity

Glorianny

fancythat

Glorianny

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

I see your point.
And I would hope he did.

But in the actual parable, the son was truly sorry for the things he had done. And then his dad forgave him.

And we have no idea what was said. But flying that distance to spend 45mins with someone shows a certain level of commitment.

It's reported the helicopter to take Charles and Camilla to Sandringham was delayed for an hour to accommodate Harry's impromptu visit.

And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many. and do you know that offer wasn't made or are you speculating?

I imagine, given the public airing of his thoughts about Camilla that any visit by Harry is somewhat awkward for all parties. Unless of course Harry is so insensitive as not to consider anyone else's feelings?

fancythat

Glorianny

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

I see your point.
And I would hope he did.

But in the actual parable, the son was truly sorry for the things he had done. And then his dad forgave him.

And we have no idea what was said. But flying that distance to spend 45mins with someone shows a certain level of commitment.

Glorianny

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

I see your point.
And I would hope he did.

But in the actual parable, the son was truly sorry for the things he had done. And then his dad forgave him.

GrannyGravy13

Grantanow I have an issue with your last paragraph.

Waiting times in some NHS trusts are not meeting the Government guidelines we all know that. The pandemic and subsequent shut downs of the majority of GP’s face-to-face appointments added considerable to the current cancer crisis

Also whilst not being the cause, the doctors along with nurses strikes have added to the waiting times. Patients cannot be treated if there are no staff on shift to treat them.

The bottom line is we need more NHS staff to be available to work, not standing on the roadside with placards or emigrating to work elsewhere.

More places at medical school need to be available, go back to some nurses not having to go to University (I think it used to be SEN’s and SRN’s)

Of course strikes add to the problem but the Tories have presided over the failure to meet cancer treatment targets since 2014, well before any strikes, and if they can find,£3.3 billion to persuade the DUP back to Stormont they can surely find extra money for NHS staff. The Tories failure to put an NHS staffing plan in place for a decade until the last minute is a dereliction and they failed to fund additional medical school places. Their immigration handling did not help after Brexit.

The 62 day waiting time target is AFTER diagnosis so although the lack of GP appointments contributes to diagnosis delays (yet another problem - there are about 1.6 million patients in the overall testing backlog, not just for cancer) it does not directly affect treatment waits.

Harry flew to Balmoral where his grandmother was dying, he
told the world her daughter ,three sons, grandson didn’t talk to him about his problems. He also told the world what he said to
his grandmother when his Aunt took him to pay respects to her
body , this can be defended?

Glorianny

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

Perhaps Harry refused.

Anniebach

Liars are not crucified, they certainly cannot be trusted

Recollections may vary...

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

Don't want to discuss it Callistemon21.

Liars are not crucified, they certainly cannot be trusted

Mollygo

bevisp1

Hope that King Charles recovers, what I don’t get is that Harry came all the way over from USA just for apparently 45minute meet up with his father. Could he not have made it his worthwhile and stayed at least a few days.

Yes and not wishing to digress, think of the climate!
On the other hand, if he hadn’t come over to see his father, he would’ve been damned for that too.

Damned if he did visit, damned if he didn't. Who knows the reasons for such a brief visit? Maybe he had pressing commitment back in the US, maybe Charles had told him there was no need to stay for any longer? It's all speculation, but he can't win either way. If he hadn't come to visit, even for such a brief period, people (including many on here) would be lining up to crucify him for that too.

Harry lies and makes money from his lies. He is self first and last.

The wealth of the monarchy is a big issue and we all have our own views. Not for discussion here, I think. I was merely answering the question as to why some taxpayers feel resentful, as it was asked.

Because they don't understand and presumably think we, the taxpayers, are funding private treatment out of the £1.29 each taxpayer pays to the Sovereign Grant per annum!

bevisp1

Hope that King Charles recovers, what I don’t get is that Harry came all the way over from USA just for apparently 45minute meet up with his father. Could he not have made it his worthwhile and stayed at least a few days.

Harry can’t win either way but sadly that’s all of his own making.

Nobody going through the trauma of cancer, whether they’re the patient or the family, would want to spend time with somebody they can’t trust.

The wealth of the monarchy is a big issue and we all have our own views. Not for discussion here, I think. I was merely answering the question as to why some taxpayers feel resentful, as it was asked.
But it's no reason not to feel sympathy for any person/family going through a very difficult time. Especially with Catherine just recovering too.
I've no idea why Harry only made a short visit. But even five minutes with a father who has just been diagnosed with cancer is worth flying any distance, in my opinion.

He made an announcement that he was coming to see his father, why not an announcement expressing his wish to see
his father soon ' no, there were cameras at the American airport, they guessed he would be leaving that morning?

Jaberwok

Well we don't pay for our RF, we did once that is true. The Sovereigns grant act 2011 sets a single grant to support the Monarchs official business to enable the Monarch as H of S to discharge his duties. The Prince of Wales is supported by the Duchy of Cornwall. Other members of the RF support themselves except when they're on official business. HM will be paying for his hospital treatment the same as any other wealthy person. Prince William will be paying those school fees, the tax payer does not.

I think the difference when talking about wealth and what causes resentment from some is the fact that we pay for our RF. Just answering your question
nadateturbe
We pay them to do their jobs. I would think that Charles and other member of the Royal Family use their own private money to pay for private healthcare. If any went into an NHS hospital then probably a whole floor of the hospital would be cleared, other patients postponed, money spent on security etc. which would be a huge bone of contention for many, quite rightly.

We pay entertainers too, that is why they're wealthy!

Jaberwok is correct.

bevisp1

Hope that King Charles recovers, what I don’t get is that Harry came all the way over from USA just for apparently 45minute meet up with his father. Could he not have made it his worthwhile and stayed at least a few days.

Yes and not wishing to digress, think of the climate!
On the other hand, if he hadn’t come over to see his father, he would’ve been damned for that too.