Sunak intervening to prevent end to doctors strikes

Grantanow, no it isn’t fit for a king or anyone waiting for their primary cancer to be identified with the right treatment to follow

He IS a terrible Prime Minster.

According to a 2023 House of Commons Library research paper about 40% of NHS patients waited longer than the 62 day target for cancer treatment after diagnosis since 2014. A 2020 article in the British Medical Journal stated that every month delayed in the treatment of 7 kinds of cancer can raise the risk of death by around 10%. The Tories have failed to staff and fund the NHS adequately over that time. Is this a service fit for a king?

We have brilliant cataract services in our area. Thank you so much to CHEC. Not all services are nearly as good. CHEC is positioned in the shopping centre itself and is so efficient and streamlined.

When the last labour government came into power the waiting lists for simple but vital surgery was years. 3 or 4 years for hip and knee surgery, 4 years for cataract and so it was.
Labour brought that down to manageable numbers but not in time for my mil who had to borrow £5000 to pay her cataract surgery costs.
So yes, I hope once again labour will be able to improve the dire situation we are in courtesy of this Tory government which seems to be grinding the NHS down while supporting those who are already wealthy so have no need to use the NHS. Unless they have an emergency that is.

The Labour Party saved and improved the NHS last time they were in power, I fully expect they will again. The issue is going to be how long it will take to do it, not whether their intention is to do so. The baseline is so much lower now than in was in 1997, so it will be an uphill struggle.

Syracute

Germanshepherdsmum

Do you really think that everyone who belongs to or supports the Conservative Party can afford private healthcare? There are some millionaires among them and also a great many ordinary people.

If you think Labour will save the NHS you’re deluded.

Well status quo certainly isn’t working so a change could be a good chance of going forward ! After living in Germany and Switzerland the health care is very poor quality here in comparison.

But it is partly privatised in Switzerland, isn't it?

The term 'Private Healthcare' seems to upset many people in the UK.

Germanshepherdsmum

Do you really think that everyone who belongs to or supports the Conservative Party can afford private healthcare? There are some millionaires among them and also a great many ordinary people.

If you think Labour will save the NHS you’re deluded.

Well status quo certainly isn’t working so a change could be a good chance of going forward ! After living in Germany and Switzerland the health care is very poor quality here in comparison.

Do you really think that everyone who belongs to or supports the Conservative Party can afford private healthcare? There are some millionaires among them and also a great many ordinary people.

If you think Labour will save the NHS you’re deluded.

Seagull72

The party of millionaires is completely out of touch with people’s everyday lives as they can pay for their healthcare. No empathy at all just trying to con people into voting for them.

Well I hope you are not banking on the Labour Party saving the NHS…

The BMA is even more out of it.

The party of millionaires is completely out of touch with people’s everyday lives as they can pay for their healthcare. No empathy at all just trying to con people into voting for them.

Anyone in their right mind can see that the kind of delays for all stages of health care has to mean there just aren't enough people to cope with the volume of patients. Surely most people would be prepared to pay extra taxes to pay for this. If not, a combination of NHS private medical care without the exorbitant cost of fully private. Nobody likes higher taxation but under the current circumstances, I can't see anyway forward.

I have a son with stage 4 kidney/spinal cancer. He was prescribed paracetamol for 18 months by his GP and 4 other doctors. Then an MRI was prescribed but there was a 3 month waiting list. I took him to France and his MRI took 3 days. After 2 more days he was in surgery. Now, he is paralysed from the waist down. If the GP had recognized the symptoms at the beginning he could have been saved all the pain and drugs needed now.

Again, in France, I myself fell but went directly from the ambulance straight into Emergency and 1 hour later folowed by X'Rays,and RMI done the same day and the replacement operation the next day.

I remember the NHS back in the 60/80s when itranked ongst the top in the world. Currently we rank 19th out of 2 national health care systems across Europe Maybe we should be comparing with developing nations ?

I have to agree. They won’t even submit the increase which has been offered to their members for a vote.

Read the end of the article.

As I have commented before the BMA are blatantly lying when they say that junior drs earn £14 an hour. They have to work nights so automatically get the 37% pay up lift and as a retired director in the NHS any doctor who works over 40 get paid for it ( yes including consultants)

As someone else commented you don’t see any poor consultants and junior drs who many choose to work extra hours are also raking it in.

This is a political stunt by the left wing BMA and is disgusting using patients as pawns.

ronib

And the rest Casdon

The rest of them aren’t the government though ronib, they have no power to change anything.

GrannyGravy13

Latest Government statement on the next round of doctors strikes.

Doctors in training
As a doctor in training you’ll earn a basic salary, plus pay for any hours over 40 per week, a 37 per cent enhancement for working nights, a weekend allowance for any work at the weekend, an availability allowance if you are required to be available on-call, and other potential pay premia.

In Foundation training, you will earn a basic salary of £32,398 to £37,303 (from 1 April 2023).

If you’re a doctor starting your specialist training in 2023 your basic salary will be £43,923 to £63,152.

Specialty doctors and specialist payscale
If you’re working as a specialty doctor you’ll earn a basic salary of £52,530 to £82,400. If you are a specialist grade doctor you'll earn a basic salary of £83,945 to £92,275.

As a consultant from 1 April 2023, you'll earn a basic salary of £93,666 to £126,281 per year, depending on the length of your service. You may apply for local Clinical Excellence Awards and national Clinical Impact Awards (previously known as Clinical Excellence Awards). This is a competitive process which takes into account work that you do over and above delivering your basic job requirements. In addition, if you take on extra responsibilities, for example in management or education, you may expect to be paid more.

Consultants can also supplement their salary by working in private practice if they wish. The opportunities available will depend on their specialty areas and the time they wish to spend on this outside of their NHS contracted hours.

I don't have time to work out what the % pay rises requested would be.

Hospital doctors usually become Consultants by age 40.

And the rest Casdon

I think there are 349 of them at the moment ronib.

Let’s just pause and ask who are the arrogant group of people with inflated views of their own importance?
Or rather how many groups of such people are there?

Iam64

*what the tories have done is an absolute scandal*

The devastation of our NHS including mental health, drug/alcohol services along with the 20,000 experienced police officers they made redundant, the swathes of experienced social care managers/workers, the disdain with which ministers speak of teachers in state schools and much much more - we live in a broken country led by an arrogant group of people with inflated views of their own importance.

Very well said. Totally agree

One of my best friends has just been diagnosed with a heart condition. She quickly had an emergency doctor's appointment, due to the post code they live in. She is to have an emergency scan which she has been told could take 20 weeks to materialise. It's scandalous. I hope she doesn't die during those 20 weeks.

Latest Government statement on the next round of doctors strikes.

Having worked in general practice for over 30 years, I agree that some junior doctors are not junior but I would like to add that those who are not junior also do not earn the £14 per hour that is emblazoned on the strikers placards. Senior registrars in general practicec earn well over 100k per annum and having worked with doctors all my life I can honestly say that I've never met a poor one! Just saying.