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Should Starmer sue Sunak?

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DaisyAnneReturns Wed 07-Feb-24 13:10:12

I noticed Sunak has repeated his nonsense in PMQs about Starmer and those he defended as a Barrister.

Sunak recently voiced the same nonsense in an interview with Piers Morgan. By doing so, he opened himself up to being sued. Thus also opened up the broadcaster.the

My question is, why does he keep repeating it? Does he see his supporters as so thick and stupid that they don't understand the cab rank rule for Barristers? Is he really that out of touch?

I feel he must be as he couldn't see how crass a £1,000 bet on the lives of asylum seekers would look, nor could he see how hurtful his transgender jibe would be to Brianna Ghey's mother, who was sitting in the gallery at PMQs.

Mollygo Sat 10-Feb-24 23:20:00

I don’t know who you’re talking about Mollygo, but I’m a Starmer supporter who has said from the outset that in my view it was six of one and half a dozen of the other.

Not on this thread Casdon.

14:19 today you finally said

There is no excuse for either of them. Until then I can find no mention from you on this thread acknowledging Starmer’s culpability.

Casdon Sat 10-Feb-24 22:24:59

Mollygo

Casdon

Mollygo
Casdon
Why trot it out when you have been told in advance that the mother of a murdered trans teenager is in the building and expected to attend PMQ though Germanshepherdsmum? There isn’t any excuse, surely.

Exactly Casdon
Why did Starmer trot out Brianna’s name when he knew her mother would be in the building?
There isn’t any excuse, surely.
There is no excuse for either of them, I’ve already said that - but why Sunak’s supporters don’t acknowledge his part in this I don’t understand.

If you read the posts carefully, many posters including me, aren’t excusing Sunak.

^There is no excuse for either of them, I’ve already said that - but why Starmer’s supporters don’t acknowledge his part in this I don’t understand.^

I don’t know who you’re talking about Mollygo, but I’m a Starmer supporter who has said from the outset that in my view it was six of one and half a dozen of the other.

MayBee70 Sat 10-Feb-24 21:47:10

If Sunak was capable of thinking on his feet he would have had the sense to not use the scripted comment about Starmer.

Joplin Sat 10-Feb-24 21:12:23

After Starmer seemed to take delight in mentioning Brianna’s name & pointing to the gallery, although he must have known her mother hadn’t yet arrived, it became inexcusable point scoring, as well as the fact that no-one is supposed to be identified by name ( surely he must know that! ). He has slipped so far in my estimation I couldn’t possibly vote for him in the next election. He obviously speaks before thinking of the consequences so can’t be respected.

Mollygo Sat 10-Feb-24 20:43:19

Casdon

Mollygo
Casdon
Why trot it out when you have been told in advance that the mother of a murdered trans teenager is in the building and expected to attend PMQ though Germanshepherdsmum? There isn’t any excuse, surely.

Exactly Casdon
Why did Starmer trot out Brianna’s name when he knew her mother would be in the building?
There isn’t any excuse, surely.
There is no excuse for either of them, I’ve already said that - but why Sunak’s supporters don’t acknowledge his part in this I don’t understand.

If you read the posts carefully, many posters including me, aren’t excusing Sunak.

There is no excuse for either of them, I’ve already said that - but why Starmer’s supporters don’t acknowledge his part in this I don’t understand.

Oliviarae Sat 10-Feb-24 17:16:03

Totally agree with you Germanshepherdsmum.

MayBee70 Sat 10-Feb-24 17:05:35

Nicenanny3

Seems to me slippery Starmer will do/ say/ change his mind /anything to become Prime Minister he has no scruples in my opinion.

And then there was the time he was going to build a bridge between Scotland and Ireland. Oh, hang on a minute...

Galaxy Sat 10-Feb-24 17:03:58

That doesn't alter my position though Iam64, what Starmer chooses to do is up to him. I am not cheering him on on this. I am cheering him for the way he altered Labours position on single sex spaces though.

Iam64 Sat 10-Feb-24 15:53:45

Galaxy

To be fair I want people to change their mind about the sex/gender issue, I dont want to be howling into a voidgrin. Its no good being all pure about when people realised there was a problem.

Starmer’s reluctance to be hounded to make simplistic one liners on the trans issue has been supported by the Brianna tragedy. Brianna’s parents refer to her as their daughter

mousemac Sat 10-Feb-24 15:48:56

Basically, Starmer knows he now has Sunak on toast.

He'll bide his time, as he did with Johnson and the parties.

Wily old DPP knows all about timing.

Galaxy Sat 10-Feb-24 15:39:17

To be fair I want people to change their mind about the sex/gender issue, I dont want to be howling into a voidgrin. Its no good being all pure about when people realised there was a problem.

Nicenanny3 Sat 10-Feb-24 15:36:47

Seems to me slippery Starmer will do/ say/ change his mind /anything to become Prime Minister he has no scruples in my opinion.

Anniebach Sat 10-Feb-24 15:13:32

The same afternoon a photograph is released, Starmer and Mrs
Ghey, why

MaizieD Sat 10-Feb-24 14:42:35

GrannyGravy13

The OP seems to have disappeared?

I suspect she's on the naughty step...

Doggie6 Sat 10-Feb-24 14:32:16

Sorry to say they all act like children, I think they should all have dummies and rattle, M P get good wages to run this country and sort problems out and what do they do shout at each other to score points instead

Casdon Sat 10-Feb-24 14:31:35

Point taken, maybe I should have said that I can’t understand how anybody could not acknowledge Sunak’s part in this, whether a supporter of his or not.

Oreo Sat 10-Feb-24 14:29:17

What a lot of us are saying is that PMQ’s and politics in general can be firing off insults off each side, Starmer has heard it all before and bats off what he can but this time obvs saw a aha!moment or a gotcha! In other words he brought up the Ghey family as a distraction.Very poor.

Smileless2012 Sat 10-Feb-24 14:23:55

FWIW I'm not a Sunak supporter.

Oreo Sat 10-Feb-24 14:23:53

What makes you think any of us are Sunak supporters?hmm

Casdon Sat 10-Feb-24 14:19:43

Mollygo

Casdon

Why trot it out when you have been told in advance that the mother of a murdered trans teenager is in the building and expected to attend PMQ though Germanshepherdsmum? There isn’t any excuse, surely.

Exactly Casdon
Why did Starmer trot out Brianna’s name when he knew her mother would be in the building?
There isn’t any excuse, surely.

There is no excuse for either of them, I’ve already said that - but why Sunak’s supporters don’t acknowledge his part in this I don’t understand.

Oreo Sat 10-Feb-24 14:02:43

Gone to have a lie down? 😄

GrannyGravy13 Sat 10-Feb-24 13:43:28

The OP seems to have disappeared?

Mollygo Sat 10-Feb-24 13:39:18

Casdon

Why trot it out when you have been told in advance that the mother of a murdered trans teenager is in the building and expected to attend PMQ though Germanshepherdsmum? There isn’t any excuse, surely.

Exactly Casdon
Why did Starmer trot out Brianna’s name when he knew her mother would be in the building?
There isn’t any excuse, surely.

Smileless2012 Sat 10-Feb-24 13:29:08

Yes I do Casdon. He listed 10 things that KS has either done a U turn on or shown that he doesn't seem to be able to come to a decision on, not being able to say what a woman is, was one on that list.

He was mocking KS, not the trans gender community.

hazelnuts Sat 10-Feb-24 13:10:36

We teach our children never to use the word stupid I rest my case