Should Starmer sue Sunak?

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Yet another example of how distanced he is from the rest of the population.

He is getting desperate isn’t he?

PMQs was awful and having lost the plot, Sunak seems incapable of not repeating the lies, even though he has been picked up on them. Poor little soul😄 he doesn’t seem to know which way to turn.

I don't think he's all that distanced from the rest of the population. There are plenty of people who are happy to castigate barristers for representing 'guilty' people.

The slur will stick.

I suspect that Starmer has enough on his plate already, without suing Sunak.

Brianna’s mother was not in the gallery at the time.

And yes, a lot of people know nothing about the cab rank principle. Does that make them ‘thick and stupid’?

Starmer does his fair share of repeating his favourite anti-Conservative tropes too.

Brianna’s mother was not in the gallery at the time.

Oh, so that makes it OK, then?

I don't think Starmer has said anything slanderous about Sunak, has he?

I hope it doesn't make them 'thick and stupid' GSM because I had google it as I'd never heard that term before either.

I’m not surprised. The number of people who criticise barristers for defending people charged with very unpleasant offences shows that the rule is not widely known, which doesn’t surprise me - and unlike the poster above I don’t consider them ‘thick and stupid’.

I suppose we will have multiple threads on the thick & stupid all the way up to the election.

As far as I know the PM hasn’t used those words.

GSM And yes, a lot of people know nothing about the cab rank principle. Does that make them ‘thick and stupid’?

Yes, if they haven't taken on board that explanation, which you have given at least once before.

Germanshepherdsmum

Brianna’s mother was not in the gallery at the time.

And yes, a lot of people know nothing about the cab rank principle. Does that make them ‘thick and stupid’?

Starmer does his fair share of repeating his favourite anti-Conservative tropes too.

She was actually there. Starmer pointed her out.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3wpyhQKYTw

I don’t think Starmer will sue, I think Sunak’s hanging himself without intervention.

It's got nothing to do with the PM using those words. DAR is being criticised for using them, but if you actually read her OP you will see that she wasn't accusing the PM's supporters of being 'thick and stupid'.

Oh, that was in response to GG13

I can't stand Sunak.

But I'm not keen on Starmer either.

MaizieD

It's got nothing to do with the PM using those words. DAR is being criticised for using them, but if you actually read her OP you will see that she wasn't accusing the PM's supporters of being 'thick and stupid'.

Yes, but people so often interpret a post as what they want to see.

And I’m sure people do know about the cab rule - it has come up so often in years past that it would be difficult not to know.

MaizieD

It's got nothing to do with the PM using those words. DAR is being criticised for using them, but if you actually read her OP you will see that she wasn't accusing the PM's supporters of being 'thick and stupid'.

I read the OP

Does he see his supporters as so thick and stupid

word for word from DAR

The OP was questioning whether or not the PM thought this of his supporters.

If you read my post I was looking into my crystal ball and predicting that there will be many more threads alluding to thick and stupid in the run up to the election.

Does he see his supporters as so thick and stupid

Ergo the writer of those words sees anyone who doesn’t know about the cab rank principle as thick and stupid .

Using Mrs Ghey was so wrong

Germanshepherdsmum

^Does he see his supporters as so thick and stupid ^

Ergo the writer of those words sees anyone who doesn’t know about the cab rank principle as thick and stupid .

I’ve never heard about the cab rank situation regarding barristers either and bet most of the population hasn’t either.

Starmer has gone down in my estimation now for using Mrs Ghey in a political spat in Parliament, he could have just batted away the comment on flip flopping by Sunak on not knowing what a woman was ,but chose to involve her in it while looking smug.

Mrs Ghey, was not in the public gallery during PMQ’s according to the BBC (Radio 2, 4pm news)

The leader of the opposition has posted on X pictures of him meeting her in the H of C’s this afternoon.

If Sunak said something offensive, then its offense should be decided on its content not on who is present in the chamber. That's not how we can decide on the conduct within the chamber.

MaizieD

I don't think he's all that distanced from the rest of the population. There are plenty of people who are happy to castigate barristers for representing 'guilty' people.

The slur will stick.

I suspect that Starmer has enough on his plate already, without suing Sunak.

I feel it would be better if he didn't but I would also like the Bar Council to do more. The head of this body has accused Rishi Sunak of ‘startling ignorance’ about lawyers.

Germanshepherdsmum

Brianna’s mother was not in the gallery at the time.

And yes, a lot of people know nothing about the cab rank principle. Does that make them ‘thick and stupid’?

Starmer does his fair share of repeating his favourite anti-Conservative tropes too.

When Starmer first stood up in PMQs he said:

"“This week, the unwavering bravery of Brianna Ghey’s mother, Esther, has touched us all. As a father I can’t even imagine the pain that she’s going through. And I’m glad that she’s with us in the gallery here today,”

Sunak knew she was there. Surely, even you must find it despicable, that he made a joke about trans people when the mother of a girl, murdered at least partly because she was trans, was sat listening in the gallery.

And why did Sunak make this crass "joke". Simply to stir up more hatred among the anti-trans community.

He made this joke because he is using an issue that is complex and difficult, to further his aims. The phrase anti trans community is also used in a very unclear and divisive way.