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Yet Another Honours List?

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Cossy Sat 10-Feb-24 12:11:52

MaizieD

Just got home from doctors, (daughter not me) so not yet, but I will read it with my coffee x

MaizieD Sat 10-Feb-24 12:05:03

Have you read the report, Cossy?

It's very interesting.

Cossy Sat 10-Feb-24 11:51:50

All needs a radical shake-up and the “life peerage” to disappear

MaizieD Sat 10-Feb-24 11:49:02

People might be interested in this, from the Final Report of the UK Governance Project Commission (details can be found in the report and on their website)

Page 12
S.6. The main elements of this Recommendation are as follows.
a. Prime Ministers would no longer make personal recommendations for honours. All nominations (from the Prime Minister or another source) would go to the Independent Committees. The Main Committee would have ultimate powers to approve or reject. No 10 would not be able to influence the outcomes of the Honours process.

b. The State and Political Honours Committees should be merged to create a new, central and Independent Committee, with an independent Chair, which would provide greater scrutiny of nominations from political parties and the Civil Service.

c. Political honours should go through the same process as for other nominations, requiring evidence of public service beyond the usual role .

d. The principles governing the honours system, and the criteria for a nomination to be approved, should be explicitly stated and published.

www.ukgovernanceproject.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Governance-Project-Final-Report-31.1.24.pdf

www.ukgovernanceproject.co.uk/test-page-1/

NotSpaghetti Sat 10-Feb-24 11:09:49

But they put out a statement saying that's how the nomination(s) would be decided!

What madness is this! 🙄

Callistemon21 Sat 10-Feb-24 10:44:46

NotSpaghetti

I can't understand why PC didn't put forward the person with the most votes though...

This is Plaid Cymru we're discussing 😁
Logic doesn't enter into it.

I've been to hustings .....

NotSpaghetti Sat 10-Feb-24 10:43:04

I can't understand why PC didn't put forward the person with the most votes though...

NotSpaghetti Sat 10-Feb-24 10:42:19

Yes... I take your point Callistemon21!
grin

Callistemon21 Sat 10-Feb-24 10:38:42

NotSpaghetti

Well Carmen Smith, (one time Plaid Cymru adviser apparently) can pal up with the other baby, Charlotte Owen, who was (apparently) an adviser to Boris Johnson.

I doubt that very much 😁

MaizieD Sat 10-Feb-24 10:07:06

Not that young, though, OldFrill.

A bit of life experience and a solid record of sustained expertise in their field wouldn't come amiss.

OldFrill Sat 10-Feb-24 10:03:42

There are only 4 members under 39 years old, vast majority over 70 and 12 are over 90.
It needs an upper age limit setting and younger people participating

MaizieD Sat 10-Feb-24 09:49:57

GrannyGravy13

They are not just Conservative nominees, the young lady is from Plaid Cymru along with Labour supporters also.

No-one has said that they are.

NotSpaghetti Sat 10-Feb-24 09:20:46

nation.cymru/news/plaid-cymru-row-over-house-of-lords-nominations/

There was a vote regarding who Plaid Cymru nominated. They have their one member resigning this month.

NotSpaghetti Sat 10-Feb-24 09:15:18

Well Carmen Smith, (one time Plaid Cymru adviser apparently) can pal up with the other baby, Charlotte Owen, who was (apparently) an adviser to Boris Johnson.

Nandalot Sat 10-Feb-24 09:13:05

I was just about to post this! It is , as you say, MaizieD, ridiculous. I am in favour of a second chamber but not an over-stuffed one full of cronies whose only ‘merit’ is having the money to buy themselves a place.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 10-Feb-24 09:10:11

They are not just Conservative nominees, the young lady is from Plaid Cymru along with Labour supporters also.

MaizieD Sat 10-Feb-24 08:48:04

Goodness, we've got a 27 year old now.!

This is utterly ridiculous.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68259178

mae13 Sat 10-Feb-24 05:01:09

Published Friday evening - a favoured tactic for slipping dodgy government newsitems "under the radar".
But how many Honours List are delivered annually? I thought it was just the New Year and the Monarch's birthday - has another reason to do more honours been invented?
The new lot of 13 nudges the bloated numbers in the Lords to almost 800 - so much for all the waffle, in recent years, about scaling down the unwieldy upper house.
Still, Baroness Michelle Mone's seat will be vacant for the foreseeable future......so that's one less.