Nigel Farage suggests Prince William ‘sticks to the BAFTAs’

Namsnanny Nigel Farage is entitled to an opinion and to have it respected. that does not mean that anyone cannot contradict or disagree with it. But he is an individual.

it is the grouping of people, based on one characteristic only and then making swooping generalisation about their personal aptitudes. Like the sweeping generalisations that lie behind Anti-semitism - that all Jews support the Israeli government - that cause most of the wars in this world.

BlueBelle

Well actually nanna8 it wasn’t anything like a political speech it was simply a man speaking from his heart saying he wished for peace and humanitarian help for the poor people caught up in the war
I think even the queen would have portrayed her upset over a war
This has just been blown up by ‘the the nasty one’ and run with by people who haven’t even probably listened to his words

This has just been blown up by ‘the the nasty one’ and run with by people who haven’t even probably listened to his words

Precisely.

If Farage hadn't made it an issue, I doubt too many people would have thought the statement anything other than the innocuous comment that, in reality, it was. Bearing in mind it was said whilst he was visiting the Red Cross who are involved in supplying humanitarian aid.

Farage - IMO - is playing to his gallery of supporters. He knows his view will be widely reported and applauded by - how many I have no idea but he does remain a popular mouthpiece. Why so, I haven't a clue - even Boris Johnson rejected his offer of a "pact" with the Brexit Party.

Apparently, he "says what people think" - however, he still failed to win any seats in the 2019 election so why he's given so much credence by the media is a mystery - apart from the fact that his views are controversial and publishing them will up the sales of various newspapers.

He's now stepped down as leader of the re-branded Reform UK party. Along with another 'stepper downer', Jeremy Corbyn, I wish they'd both simply fade into political obscurity, because they just muddy the waters, and neither are likely to ever again hold positions of legitimate authority.

As for him being "posh", hmm... I've always seen him as the well-heeled 'matey' bloke in the pub wearing a wax jacket.

Oh and BTW, if my memory serves me, the late Queen has also on two occasions made what could be construed as "political" observations - but they were in agreement with those who criticise such 'interference'...

It's all so bloody predictable.

Glorianny

M0nica

How damning - of you Glorianny prepared to decide that anyone with money or an upper class upbringing by definition has nothing to say that could affect anyone else.

How would you feel if someone made some comment about women over 50 not being worth listening to, or university students as a bunch have nothing useful to say? or possibly all the Rohinga people or the Uighirs.

It is the same mindless naming of a group, depersonalising them and then condemming them that lies behind most of the conflicts in the world.

But posh blokes have been telling us all what to do and what to think for centuries why on earth should I have to listen to them now?
They have no more expertise on the subject than the ordinary person. They only have press coverage because of who they are.
The other groups you name are minorities and it would be good to hear more from them. But it's posh blokes who get the press coverage.

Again you are generalising, you have a chippy about people with money, who most likely have more knowledge than the average Joe, think we hear enough also from the minorities, front page news most of it, including some masked thugs chanting and threatening a single Jewish man, but he stood up to them. Brave man amongst cowards.

Farage claims that Prince William is telling Israel to stop fighting and giving a free pass to Hamas.

Is this an accurate summary of what Farage said?

I ask because, if it is, it illustrates his tendency to deflect from the topic in order to control the discussion. It in no way describes William's innocuous little speech.

Just another ploy by Farage to stay in the public eye. Let's not play ball.

Surely no-one seriously thinks that there should NOT be a ceasefire and an end to the death and destruction, and that the fighting should continue until one side or the other is totally annihilated?

Prince William did not say what Farage claims he did - he was evenhanded in wishing ALL the fighting would cease and all the hostages returned.

Farage is a destructive stirrer, always happy to twist other people's statements so as to cause as much damage to them as possible. He can make a humanitarian plea for peace into a biased political judgment.

I can accept that Prince William is ‘posh bloke’. Farage? Not so much.

TinSoldier

Walter Bagehot writing in the The English Constitution (1867).

The Sovereign has, under a constitutional monarchy such as ours, three rights:

• the right to be consulted,
• the right to encourage,
• the right to warn.

Prince William said: "I remain deeply concerned about the terrible human cost of the conflict in the Middle East since the Hamas terrorist attack on 7 October. Too many have been killed.

"I, like so many others, want to see an end to the fighting as soon as possible. There is a desperate need for increased humanitarian support to Gaza. It's crucial that aid gets in and the hostages are released."

"Sometimes it is only when faced with the sheer scale of human suffering that the importance of permanent peace is brought home. Even in the darkest hour, we must not succumb to the counsel of despair," William said. "I continue to cling to the hope that a brighter future can be found and I refuse to give up on that.”

The statement has been issued after it emerged Prince William is set to carry out a series of engagements to highlight the plight of all those affected by the ongoing conflict. In the coming days he will meet with charities in the UK that are providing humanitarian support in the region and will hear about the conditions faced by those working on the ground. He will also join a conversation at a synagogue with young people from a wide range of communities to acknowledge the rise in antisemitism around the world. (Sky News)

Farage claims that Prince William is telling Israel to stop fighting and giving a free pass to Hamas. He isn’t. He wants an end to the fighting on both sides as any humanitarian would. His words are those of encouragement.

He isn't the Sovereign.

nanna8

I think he should keep right out of politics. Wasn’t Charles 1 beheaded because he was too involved with the political side of things and didn’t they pass a law to make monarchs just figureheads with no input ? He is not a politician and to me it is the thin end of the wedge for someone in his position to speak out. Nothing to do with Nigel Forage oops Garage oops Farage.

He's not the King.

GrannyGravy13

Glorianny please can you let us know when you consider someone to rich and posh ?

I would hate to waste my time answering your questions only to be dismissed as ^rich and posh^

You can be rich without being posh
You can be posh without being rich.
Sometimes it is possible to be both but it doesn't mean someone should be not able to express an opinion.

MaizieD

^Farage claims that Prince William is telling Israel to stop fighting and giving a free pass to Hamas.^

Is this an accurate summary of what Farage said?

I ask because, if it is, it illustrates his tendency to deflect from the topic in order to control the discussion. It in no way describes William's innocuous little speech.

Farage reads out Prince William’s speech verbatim speech and says:

... but for him to call for an immediate end to all fighting is going to be seen by many in the international community as absolutely clear evidence that Prince William is saying to Israel, “Stop what you are doing.” Some will see that as giving a free pass to Hamas. Many young people will say, “Hooray, he’s doing the right thing.” but whether he has done the right thing or not, has he gone too far with this? Should our future king intervene in this way? I don’t think that he should. I think that he is making a very big mistake.

Around 2:15 into the clip:

www.gbnews.com/opinion/farage-opinion-prince-william-war

Well, he's not the King yet, Nige.

Perhaps failed politicians should be the ones to keep quiet.

BlueBelle

I don’t know why you say Ukraine isn’t talked about Maddy the radio I listen to goes on about it all the time

goes on about it

Given the coverage given to Gaza (rightly) there is far less coverage of the situation in Ukraine. I don’t listen to the radio, unless Classic FM in the car counts, but I do watch television news bulletins and coverage of Ukraine is not given the same priority as Gaza. Far more people have died in the war on Ukraine and far more people displaced. Putin is taking men from all over Russia and gives them two weeks training before they find themselves on the battlefield. Ukraine is running out of soldiers and weapons and vast areas of Ukraine have been turned into a total wasteland, with all buildings reduced to rubble. Tens of thousands of Russian soldiers have been killed in the last battle, for the town of Avdiivka, which they have now taken. Prince William may well have said something (what exactly? did he request a ceasefire?) some two years ago, but since then?
Prince William should not in my opinion, have said anything other than the offer of sympathy for all the people suffering in this war. That would include the hostages, which were not mentioned. This is a political statement, two days before an important vote in the HofCs. Why would anyone think calling for a ceasefire that is not a political statement given that there is to be a vote in the HofCs?

As for what Farage said, and I don’t know precisely what he said because I have neither read it, nor seen him saying it, in my opinion it is of little interest. He’s a citizen of this country and is free to say whatever he wants, just as all the journalists on television do, and you and I do.

I’m not really a royalist although I enjoy watching the great occasions of state. William has come to his position by virtue of his birth, no other reason. If we are to have a monarchy which is politicised, then we need to be able to elect our Head of State. Political statements, however carefully worded, are unacceptable by the monarchy.

Just seen what Farage said on Gransnet.

Farage has nothing to say about Navalny I notice.

William did not call for a ceasefire , he spoke with so many others, some here can’t be bothered to read what he said or choose to ignore

Nigel Farage can just crawl back under his stone.

Anniebach

Charles set out his architectural philosophy in 1987 in a book called “A Vision of Britain.” In it, he wrote that the country's architecture should focus on historical and regional styles, and resist the “creeping cancer” of modernism that was making “everywhere — from Riyadh to Rangoon” look similar.

That was a long time ago. The king may well have changed his opinion about such things. In a way he was right if you look at most architecture from the 60s and 70s; it was rather grim. The interesting or exciting houses from that period were going up on large plots that most people wouldn't see.

He may have changed his mind but he spoke out at that time

I think Farage should stick to “I’m a Celebrity” and the like.

nanna8

I think he should keep right out of politics. Wasn’t Charles 1 beheaded because he was too involved with the political side of things and didn’t they pass a law to make monarchs just figureheads with no input ? He is not a politician and to me it is the thin end of the wedge for someone in his position to speak out. Nothing to do with Nigel Forage oops Garage oops Farage.

Charles 1 was beheaded because he believed in the divine right of kings which would have coloured everything he thought and did.

Farage had far too much air/tv time during the tun up to Brexit because of the MSM wanted to give balance coverage. Sadly there weren't enough knowledgeable pundits on the UKIP team so we all had to put up with the same people over and over again.

Some on here think that William should ermain silent. I think that there are still many Royalists in the UK who will listen to what he says.

Not just Farage talking about this. On the Storm Huntley show there was a long discussion about it

William spoke as a humanitarian not a politician

I applaud William for speaking his mind with controlled well chosen words and on an appropriate occasion. Why would we want him to be a puppet player? There were times when I thought the late queen should have said more.