Nigel Farage suggests Prince William ‘sticks to the BAFTAs’

I can accept that Prince William is ‘posh bloke’. Farage? Not so much.

Surely no-one seriously thinks that there should NOT be a ceasefire and an end to the death and destruction, and that the fighting should continue until one side or the other is totally annihilated?

Prince William did not say what Farage claims he did - he was evenhanded in wishing ALL the fighting would cease and all the hostages returned.

Farage is a destructive stirrer, always happy to twist other people's statements so as to cause as much damage to them as possible. He can make a humanitarian plea for peace into a biased political judgment.

Just another ploy by Farage to stay in the public eye. Let's not play ball.

Farage claims that Prince William is telling Israel to stop fighting and giving a free pass to Hamas.

Is this an accurate summary of what Farage said?

I ask because, if it is, it illustrates his tendency to deflect from the topic in order to control the discussion. It in no way describes William's innocuous little speech.

Glorianny

M0nica

How damning - of you Glorianny prepared to decide that anyone with money or an upper class upbringing by definition has nothing to say that could affect anyone else.

How would you feel if someone made some comment about women over 50 not being worth listening to, or university students as a bunch have nothing useful to say? or possibly all the Rohinga people or the Uighirs.

It is the same mindless naming of a group, depersonalising them and then condemming them that lies behind most of the conflicts in the world.

But posh blokes have been telling us all what to do and what to think for centuries why on earth should I have to listen to them now?
They have no more expertise on the subject than the ordinary person. They only have press coverage because of who they are.
The other groups you name are minorities and it would be good to hear more from them. But it's posh blokes who get the press coverage.

Again you are generalising, you have a chippy about people with money, who most likely have more knowledge than the average Joe, think we hear enough also from the minorities, front page news most of it, including some masked thugs chanting and threatening a single Jewish man, but he stood up to them. Brave man amongst cowards.

BlueBelle

Well actually nanna8 it wasn’t anything like a political speech it was simply a man speaking from his heart saying he wished for peace and humanitarian help for the poor people caught up in the war
I think even the queen would have portrayed her upset over a war
This has just been blown up by ‘the the nasty one’ and run with by people who haven’t even probably listened to his words

This has just been blown up by ‘the the nasty one’ and run with by people who haven’t even probably listened to his words

Precisely.

If Farage hadn't made it an issue, I doubt too many people would have thought the statement anything other than the innocuous comment that, in reality, it was. Bearing in mind it was said whilst he was visiting the Red Cross who are involved in supplying humanitarian aid.

Farage - IMO - is playing to his gallery of supporters. He knows his view will be widely reported and applauded by - how many I have no idea but he does remain a popular mouthpiece. Why so, I haven't a clue - even Boris Johnson rejected his offer of a "pact" with the Brexit Party.

Apparently, he "says what people think" - however, he still failed to win any seats in the 2019 election so why he's given so much credence by the media is a mystery - apart from the fact that his views are controversial and publishing them will up the sales of various newspapers.

He's now stepped down as leader of the re-branded Reform UK party. Along with another 'stepper downer', Jeremy Corbyn, I wish they'd both simply fade into political obscurity, because they just muddy the waters, and neither are likely to ever again hold positions of legitimate authority.

As for him being "posh", hmm... I've always seen him as the well-heeled 'matey' bloke in the pub wearing a wax jacket.

Oh and BTW, if my memory serves me, the late Queen has also on two occasions made what could be construed as "political" observations - but they were in agreement with those who criticise such 'interference'...

It's all so bloody predictable.

Namsnanny Nigel Farage is entitled to an opinion and to have it respected. that does not mean that anyone cannot contradict or disagree with it. But he is an individual.

it is the grouping of people, based on one characteristic only and then making swooping generalisation about their personal aptitudes. Like the sweeping generalisations that lie behind Anti-semitism - that all Jews support the Israeli government - that cause most of the wars in this world.

GrannyGravy13

Glorianny please can you let us know when you consider someone to rich and posh ?

I would hate to waste my time answering your questions only to be dismissed as ^rich and posh^

You never seem rich and posh to me😄😄😄.

So carry on voicing your opinion!

I disagree, he is saying what most of us are thinking.

to should be too

Glorianny please can you let us know when you consider someone to rich and posh ?

I would hate to waste my time answering your questions only to be dismissed as rich and posh

I think the royals should keep their opinions to themselves. Where politics is concerned, they must be seen to be neutral. Princess Anne is someone with strong opinions but she sticks to what she is paid to do....cutting ribbons.

The Prince of Wales is perfectly right to speak out.

However, she famously broke this rule by expressing concern about the Falklands War. During a state visit by the then US President, Ronald Reagan, the Queen said: “The conflict in the Falkland Islands was thrust on us by naked aggression and we are naturally proud of the way our fighting men are serving their country”.

I don’t know why you say Ukraine isn’t talked about Maddy the radio I listen to goes on about it all the time

Well actually nanna8 it wasn’t anything like a political speech it was simply a man speaking from his heart saying he wished for peace and humanitarian help for the poor people caught up in the war
I think even the queen would have portrayed her upset over a war
This has just been blown up by ‘the the nasty one’ and run with by people who haven’t even probably listened to his words

I think he should keep right out of politics. Wasn’t Charles 1 beheaded because he was too involved with the political side of things and didn’t they pass a law to make monarchs just figureheads with no input ? He is not a politician and to me it is the thin end of the wedge for someone in his position to speak out. Nothing to do with Nigel Forage oops Garage oops Farage.

Walter Bagehot writing in the The English Constitution (1867).

The Sovereign has, under a constitutional monarchy such as ours, three rights:

• the right to be consulted,
• the right to encourage,
• the right to warn.

Prince William said: "I remain deeply concerned about the terrible human cost of the conflict in the Middle East since the Hamas terrorist attack on 7 October. Too many have been killed.

"I, like so many others, want to see an end to the fighting as soon as possible. There is a desperate need for increased humanitarian support to Gaza. It's crucial that aid gets in and the hostages are released."

"Sometimes it is only when faced with the sheer scale of human suffering that the importance of permanent peace is brought home. Even in the darkest hour, we must not succumb to the counsel of despair," William said. "I continue to cling to the hope that a brighter future can be found and I refuse to give up on that.”

The statement has been issued after it emerged Prince William is set to carry out a series of engagements to highlight the plight of all those affected by the ongoing conflict. In the coming days he will meet with charities in the UK that are providing humanitarian support in the region and will hear about the conditions faced by those working on the ground. He will also join a conversation at a synagogue with young people from a wide range of communities to acknowledge the rise in antisemitism around the world. (Sky News)

Farage claims that Prince William is telling Israel to stop fighting and giving a free pass to Hamas. He isn’t. He wants an end to the fighting on both sides as any humanitarian would. His words are those of encouragement.

I'm pleased that Prince William spoke up. Every word was carefully considered, they said. He's not monarch yet and perfectly able to comment.
As for 'posh bloke, ' how very dismissive
of a man who is obviously intelligent and caring. Lots of so called posh blokes do have a brain and do care.

maddyone

I have no problem with Prince William speaking out about Gaza, but perhaps since he has done, he could now address his thoughts to Ukraine. I will never understand why Gaza (rightly) gets so much support and sympathy, but Ukraine gets so little.
Why?

He did, when visiting a Ukrainian cultural centre here two years ago.

I have no problem with Prince William speaking out about Gaza, but perhaps since he has done, he could now address his thoughts to Ukraine. I will never understand why Gaza (rightly) gets so much support and sympathy, but Ukraine gets so little.
Why?

Farzanah

So what has William said?

‘End to the fighting as soon as possible”
“Terrible human cost of the conflict in the Middle East since the Hamas terrorist attack.
“Desperate need for humanitarian support to Gaza” and for hostages to be released.

Good for him I say and many in U.K. would second it. It’s not different to the government’ revised stance is it?

I agree Farzanah

It wasn't political, it was a hope for peace.
He was visiting the Red Cross at the time.

It never even occurred to me that anyone would criticise him for this speech.

Haven't you been reading the threads HousePlantQueen? all our viewpoints are valid, so why not NF?

Just why the hell did anyone ask Farage's opinion anyway? What's it to him? More importantly, why did someone interview him and broadcast it?

Farage is posh ? 🙄