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Nigel Farage suggests Prince William ‘sticks to the BAFTAs’

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Urmstongran Tue 20-Feb-24 18:38:07

What do you think?

In my opinion William needs to understand what accepting the privilege of Royalty means.
You can have private opinions but keep them to yourself.

This is NOT the job of the Monarchy to get involved.

Anniebach Thu 22-Feb-24 11:56:37

Charles founded the Prince’s Trust

Sarci Thu 22-Feb-24 11:58:11

From an outsider's point of view, it seems that Prince William's comment about the Israel-Hamas war is part of his job and future job. That Farage guy is a Trump fan so that screams volumes about his intelligence. He's very much what our GOP party is full of and who we are trying to get rid of one investigation at a time.
The majority of us here absolutely adore William and Kate.

Delene Thu 22-Feb-24 11:58:55

Germanshepherdsmum

I disagree. The King, when Prince of Wales, let his opinions on various issues be known. William is not the monarch and I see no reason why he can’t speak out on such an issue.

I agree with you Germanshepherdsmum. People will take note of their opinion. The Queen kept quiet on everything but I suspect the Monarchy is changing. For instance, King Charles has recently announced he is building, I think in Suffolk, an estate for social housing. These new royals are showing they have a social conscience, not just talk.

Delene Thu 22-Feb-24 12:00:56

Anniebach

Charles founded the Prince’s Trust

Harry, The Invictus Games for injured military.

Delene Thu 22-Feb-24 12:03:04

Everything Nigel Farage says goes over my head. Look how we were misled my him on Brexit and subsequently by the Conservative gvt. We are a lot worse off.

Anniebach Thu 22-Feb-24 12:08:59

The Prince’s Trust was formed to help disadvantaged young people in the 70’s, political?

maddyone Thu 22-Feb-24 12:09:35

Charities are very much the business of the royals and they are helpful in drawing public attention to different ones.

Anniebach Thu 22-Feb-24 12:19:46

The late Queen was patron of the Red Cross, perhaps William
will become patron, his words about the Hamas-Israel conflict
was said at the time he was to visit it,

deedeedum Thu 22-Feb-24 12:25:35

There are times when I believe it is
necessary for the monarchy to express a view in dire circumstances. Surely no one can deny the death of 30,000 people is everyone's business.

Anniebach Thu 22-Feb-24 12:28:55

I can’t even imagine what William would have learned about the work of the Red Cross in the conflict

SueDoku Thu 22-Feb-24 12:31:14

Granniesunite

I’d ask how anyone with a bit of clout can watch night after night the carnage being shown on our tv screens and say nothing! It’s inhuman to say nothing.

I’m not a royalist but Prince William has gone up in my estimation today.

He’s stuck his neck out for justice and peace and I say good for you.

He’s a different generation and he’s probably learned quite a bit from his own life’s experiences.

The old ways were not always the right way.

This. Absolutely this 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Elegran Thu 22-Feb-24 12:43:23

Williams's comment on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict was humanitarian, not political.

The number of people (including babies and children) killed in the October 7th attack, and the destruction caused by it, has been exceeded many times over by the death and destruction of the retaliation. So have the numbers of homes destroyed and refugees bombed - many in the very areas they were told to evacuate to if they wanted to avoid bombs.

William was right to say what so many are thinking. It is time for Netanyahu - the leader of the nation with the more powerful armed forces in this conflict - to show that he is an international statesman and not just a tribal warlord, and announce that he is calling for a ceasefire as an act of humanity to the ordinary population, which he challenges Hamas to copy so that hostages can be exchanged and a start made on planning how the two communities can live side by side without aggression.

Anniebach Thu 22-Feb-24 12:46:28

William did not call for a ceasefire

Amalegra Thu 22-Feb-24 12:57:17

I think that Prince William does have liberal and humanitarian intention. However I am of the view that he is being used as a mouthpiece of a government too scared to actually voice an opinion. He had to run it past the powers that be, didn’t he? They were probably glad of it! Incidentally, I think a humanitarian pause would be the ideal. Ceasefire!? To enable a terrorist organisation to rearm, with help from others of its ilk? An organisation that steals from its own citizens, has no regard for their safety or welfare and uses them as human shields? I don’t agree with that, unpopular as my belief may be!

Elegran Thu 22-Feb-24 13:14:11

Anniebach

William did not call for a ceasefire

No, he didn't. I should have said "a humanitarian pause in the offensive" which is the same in practice but can be done unilaterally by a power that wishes to show itself as humanitarian and alllow the opposing leader a loophole to agree.

Roundly condemning only Hamas, and putting no criticism on Netanyahu for what I can only describe as literally "overkill", just condemns all the remaining Palestinians to annihilation and genocide. In this conflict, someone has to nudge it into a different direction by showing humanity to the civilians.

freyja Thu 22-Feb-24 13:19:11

I don't know who Nigel Farage thinks he is.
He hypercritically took a wage for being member of the EU parliament whilst embarrassing this country and his German wife with his insulting behaviour.
He then 'helped' take us out of the EU with a very small majority by supporting BJ with endless lies.
Now he thinks he can influence everyone to destroy the Tory party in the last election
To add insult to injury he has the nerve to criticise Prince William by telling him what he can and can't say.

Very narcissistic behaviour for a loud mouth nobody

Annma Thu 22-Feb-24 13:47:29

I remember Farage saying that if Brexit was a failure then he would leave the country. Why is he still here ?

Callistemon21 Thu 22-Feb-24 15:13:52

Kamiso

Charles made a comment on tv just after the Queen died saying that, as the monarch, he knew he would no longer be able to express his own opinions but that he was sure that William would follow his example as Prince of Wales.

As long as he doesn’t contradict the U.K. govt or policies, he’s as entitled to express his opinion IMO.

Farage has become a windbag who likes the sound of his own voice. To remain a celebrity he needs to remain in the news.

Agreed.

I'd rather listen to William than Farage!

Callistemon21 Thu 22-Feb-24 15:15:12

Anniebach

Charles founded the Prince’s Trust

I thought you meant the BAFTAS!

Yes, I know about The Prince's Trust.

Callistemon21 Thu 22-Feb-24 15:22:57

Delene

Anniebach

Charles founded the Prince’s Trust

Harry, The Invictus Games for injured military.

Prince Philip WWF.

The Royals have set up innumerable charities between them.

I thought the BAFTAS were just an excuse for glamorous luvvies from showbiz to enjoy themselves, self-congratulate and seek publicity but apparently there is a charity side to it, which supports talented young people who want to get into creative industries.

Anniebach Thu 22-Feb-24 15:49:45

Was Charles being political when he chose to speak of
disadvantaged children in the 70’s

Callistemon21 Thu 22-Feb-24 15:55:02

As heir, Charles became known as the “activist Prince”. But since taking the throne, a string of charitable donations show hints of how he might become the charity King.

Charles spent his apprenticeship making his opinion known. Before you come to the throne, this is more or less fine – the heir can even sell The Big Issue if he wants, as Prince William did. But this vocal way of doing things is not compatible with the top job.
www.bigissue.com/news/activism/charles-and-charity-how-the-activist-prince-might-become-the-charity-king/

What has Farage done for charity and to promote peace?

Galaxy Thu 22-Feb-24 16:00:40

Whether he has given to charity or not is irrelevant really.

Callistemon21 Thu 22-Feb-24 16:15:04

Galaxy

Whether he has given to charity or not is irrelevant really.

I wasn't talking about giving a few quid to charity.
I was talking about setting up charities to help under-privileged people and continuing to take an active interest in them.

Does he promote peace?

Dickens Thu 22-Feb-24 16:18:01

The statement William made was cleared by the government, and in line with the thinking across the HoC.

He was visiting the British Red Cross HQ and talked with those who had been involved in the humanitarian effort. So it was a comment within a context. And fairly anodyne.

Farage, unsurprisingly, has made a meal of it.

The late Queen made a comment prior to the Scottish Independence Referendum where she said to a well-wisher outside the church in Aberdeenshire, that she hoped "people will think very carefully about the future".

I don't remember Farage making a hoo-ha about that.