The vote on the call for ceasefire in Gaza

Agree winterwhite

More responsible surely, Easybee, are the SNP who deliberately put in a mischief-making motion on one of the most serious issues facing the country.

Some situations just don't fit the rules and it's wise to accept that. The baying for people's heads when things go wrong is most unpleasant.

👏👏👏 Eazybee.

To replace him ?

The two people responsible for this debacle are Keir Starmer who ignored convention and precedent to visit the Speaker to 'urge' him to accept his amendment, and had not the wit to anticipate the danger this would bring, and Lindsay Hoyle, who had not the courage to resist the 'urging' of his Leader, or the sense to listen and follow the advice of his Clerk of the Court.

Both deserve to lose their positions; Hoyle has lost all credibility in the House, and I do not believe Starmer faced a long tenure as Labour leader once the Election is past, whatever the result, even before this mess. It is those who are lined up in the shadows to replace him that are the main concern.

MayBee70

Nannashirlz

Just think these children will be knocking on our doors soon to vote for them lol

Some of these ‘children’ live with death threats on a regular basis. I honestly don’t understand why anyone would want to be an MP these days.

We have a MP in our extended family, it really is a thankless task.

Nannashirlz

Just think these children will be knocking on our doors soon to vote for them lol

Some of these ‘children’ live with death threats on a regular basis. I honestly don’t understand why anyone would want to be an MP these days.

Paddyann, no mention of the hostages in your rant, I presume you approve of their incarceration. No calling upon Hamas to put down their arms, stop using innocent Palestinians as human shields, and to stop hijacking and stealing such aid as is going into Gaza? Some is now being dropped by air by wicked old Briton in conjunction with Jordan. Let's hope this actually finds its way to the people it is meant for? Bearing in mind Hamas did start this conflict in the most hideous manner imaginable, something that is now being conveniently forgotten,I think some blame can be firmly put at their door.

Just think these children will be knocking on our doors soon to vote for them lol

People feel better for having said something. It changes nothing.

Germanshepherdsmum

*Paddy*, asking for a ceasefire is just virtue signalling. It will have no effect whatsoever.

Australia, New Zealand, Canada and other Commonwealth countries together with the EU have all demanded a ceasefire.

They clearly don’t think it is a waste of time, and frankly neither do I. Saying nothing is tantamount to agreeing with the continued slaughter.

Not outside homes

This is the "baying mob" queueing quietly to speak to their MP. Some lovely comments from some older women, proving there are still Grans who care. www.thenationalnews.com/world/uk-news/2024/02/21/labour-gaza-ceasefire-amendment-passes-amid-chaos-in-commons/

Paddy, asking for a ceasefire is just virtue signalling. It will have no effect whatsoever.

I’ve just watched Mark Francois speech 😮😮😮 I’ve just watched him claim the moral high ground!! He made the speech that Mordaunt should have made.

I watched the whole of the debate yesterday and the only person to speak gains a ceasefire was Miriam Cates - she is also being investigated for bringing parliament into disrepute.

Indeed we know what you think paddyann. That Starmer cant be trusted as his wife is Jewish. Not sure those opinions are ones that I take much notice of.

SNP have been calling for a cease fire for months...no one in the other parties was listening.Thats why they had to use their Paliamentary RIGHT to put it to the house .Labour should have let it go forward as it stood.Otherwise we're wasting our time sending our representatives to Westminster...or is your opinion the the Scottish voters should only have opinions on road signs ? The SNP have the majority of Scottish seats and I can assure you that the electorate who put them there want OUR opinions heard.We particularly want the Israel/Gaza situation to be kept current in minds and hearts.War Criminals is exactly what Netanyahu and his IDF MOB are so why not tell the truth.Yesterdays fiasco will only bring more people to understand what the ENGLISH parliament thinks of the devolved nations ....that we can and are walked over at every available instance

Actually I did but not by name. '..how disgraceful it is that our Parliamentarians use such suffering to try to manipulate political advantage...'. by that, I meant the SNP. They most certainly were trying to cause mischief by their motion, but were within their rights to do so.

Absolutely Westendgirl. The SNP started the political shenanigans by bringing forward a motion that they knew would be difficult for Labour. If the SNP cared so much about a call for a ceasefire why did they ‘spit their dummies out’ when their name wasn’t going to be against the motion? Surely, all they wanted was a call to ceasefire!

Jaberwok, you have no mention of the SNP's part in this . I wonder why

Sadly none of the partys included releasing the hostages in their motion or amendment. Unfortunately they seem all but forgotten. At least Prince William DID mention them, just! With ALL the suffering that this appalling situation has wreaked upon these poor people on both sides, how disgraceful it is that our Parliamentarians use such suffering to try to manipulate political advantage. For Speaker Hoyle to be part of that manipulation and shenanigans is shameful, as is Kier Starmers part in encouraging this complete disregard for protocol under the guise of protecting MPs from the baying mob who were clearly running things inside the H of C itself, as well as outside on Saturdays, and of whom Labour is clearly very afraid, when actually it was the splitting of the labour vote that was the real issue. A Labour government run by??!! He very fearful.

Starmer visited Hoyle the day before the vote and URGED (his words) him to put forward the amendment.

urge
verb [ I or T ]
UK /ɜːdʒ/ US /ɝːdʒ/

C1
to strongly advise or try to persuade someone to do a particular thing:

So perhaps he strongly urged him 😊

Yes, I did mean when named sorry

Anniebach

And the Labour MP’s who allegedly threatened the Speaker should be named

Allegedly.

I'd rather not have names named unless the allegations are proven.