Islamaphobia is getting out of control

Oreo

growstuff
The LP candidate for the Rochdale by election made anti-semitic comments as did others, it happens all the time and Starmer took action, just as Sunak did in the case of Lee Anderson.
Yet somehow the OP glibly says that Islmaphobia is getting out of control.
I would say that anti-semitism in this country is getting out of control!

It would be easy enough to start a thread about the Rochdale candidate. I'm not aware that GN limits threads about legitimate topics.

My personal opinion is that hatred is increasing - whether it be anti-semitic or anti-Muslim. In my opinion, both are appalling, but this particular thread is about anti-Muslim hatred (as my MP likes to call Islamophobia). It's possible for both to be increasing.

Gloriannywhere were you when one million Biafran children died with the approval of Harold Wilson? Did you march? Well I did and not one life did I save.

Glorianny

Rosie51

Glorianny In fact the majority of the population of London do not live in the zones you have mentioned but are in outer London. The actual number depends on how you're classifying inner and outer London. Newham for example doesn't count inner London for statuary purposes but does for statistical purposes. There is a substantial population in zones 1-4, we are not irrelevant.

You were the one claiming where the protestors were marching which is patently wrong. Because your sons didn't go into central London when they lived there must mean no Londoners do is a rather huge assumption. Unable to admit you're wrong you resort to posts like Sorry if I didn't get the humour I'm afraid I find it very difficult to understand how anyone can joke about the awful situation in Gaza and the dreadful Islamophobia which is gripping this country. Nobody is joking about the awful situation in Gaza, it's dishonest and distasteful to say they are.
I think the humour being found is at the inaccurate statements you are making about boosts to the economy, location of marches and that Londoners are not disrupted on a frequent basis. The thread has widened out to include all protestor disruption across London.

Perhaps the marchers shop at Liberty's as well.
Although no they couldn't possibly could they? They're all rampant Muslims or disruptive elements aren't they?

Honestly I really think GN has no idea about how most people think and behave. The marchers are just as likely to eat in a restaurant, go shopping or visit a museum as any other person in London. Some may even stay overnight and fill up hotels.

Widen all you want I don't have to go with it.
I'm sticking to the Islamophobia present in the comments. Including the inaccurate assertion the marchers wear masks most don't. And any that do can be asked to remove them.

And the disruption is no worse than any football crowd.

Your comments are becoming more and more delusional. Who has said anything about whether or not the marchers will go and shop at Liberty's or indeed any other shops? Or called them rampant Muslims? You really must stop inventing things to argue against.

You stated your sons when they lived and worked in London didn't go to central London on the weekend because it was too expensive. Now suddenly the marchers comprise people who can afford London hotel prices too! A London Premier Inn lowest priced room for tonight, prepaid no refunds is £120.

And the disruption is no worse than any football crowd. Oh I think it is, and I've attended many a Premiership football match in London. On Saturday 17th February 1500 police officers were deployed for the march, no football crowd ever has that level of policing.

growstuff
The LP candidate for the Rochdale by election made anti-semitic comments as did others, it happens all the time and Starmer took action, just as Sunak did in the case of Lee Anderson.
Yet somehow the OP glibly says that Islmaphobia is getting out of control.
I would say that anti-semitism in this country is getting out of control!

Callistemon21

Urmstongran

Why though, if Labour isn’t in thrall to Muslims, did Starmer remove his poppy before meeting Muslim voters?

Well, I have no idea why he did that.

There were whole units of soldiers, millions of men, who were Muslims and fought with the Allies in WW2.

It was disrespectful to their memory to remove the poppy,.

Urmstongran

Why though, if Labour isn’t in thrall to Muslims, did Starmer remove his poppy before meeting Muslim voters?

Well, I have no idea why he did that.

There were whole units of soldiers, millions of men, who were Muslims and fought with the Allies in WW2.

Urmstongran

Why though, if Labour isn’t in thrall to Muslims, did Starmer remove his poppy before meeting Muslim voters?

Dunno! Presumably it was red - he should have just written "Vote Labour" across it.

Talk about distracting from the point of the thread!

Why though, if Labour isn’t in thrall to Muslims, did Starmer remove his poppy before meeting Muslim voters?

The marchers are just as likely to eat in a restaurant, go shopping or visit a museum as any other person in London. Some may even stay overnight and fill up hotels.
So going on a protest is just part of a nice weekend in London?

So if protestors are able to think about things other than protesting, why can't posters?

And the disruption is no worse than any football crowd.
Would you like to start a thread? I remember when they stopped the traffic in Central London.

Oreo

Anniebach

Thread about MP’s making Islamophobia comments does take discussion away from the hideous antisemitism in this country,

Yeah, spot on, I did wonder why this thread had been started.

Because at least two current MPs have made blatantly anti-Muslim statements - one of them has now been suspended from his party. That's serious and legitimate news.

Glorianny

And the disruption is no worse than any football crowd.

Another wind up post

And the disruption is no worse than any football crowd.
Ah, now with that I have to disagree. Ever sat on a London tube with Hammers' supporters down one side of the carriage and Spurs down the other. They don't all chant and lob missiles. In fact they often offer this granny a seat.

Anniebach

Thread about MP’s making Islamophobia comments does take discussion away from the hideous antisemitism in this country,

Is there any reason why there can't be discussions about both?

Rosie51

Glorianny In fact the majority of the population of London do not live in the zones you have mentioned but are in outer London. The actual number depends on how you're classifying inner and outer London. Newham for example doesn't count inner London for statuary purposes but does for statistical purposes. There is a substantial population in zones 1-4, we are not irrelevant.

You were the one claiming where the protestors were marching which is patently wrong. Because your sons didn't go into central London when they lived there must mean no Londoners do is a rather huge assumption. Unable to admit you're wrong you resort to posts like Sorry if I didn't get the humour I'm afraid I find it very difficult to understand how anyone can joke about the awful situation in Gaza and the dreadful Islamophobia which is gripping this country. Nobody is joking about the awful situation in Gaza, it's dishonest and distasteful to say they are.
I think the humour being found is at the inaccurate statements you are making about boosts to the economy, location of marches and that Londoners are not disrupted on a frequent basis. The thread has widened out to include all protestor disruption across London.

Perhaps the marchers shop at Liberty's as well.
Although no they couldn't possibly could they? They're all rampant Muslims or disruptive elements aren't they?

Honestly I really think GN has no idea about how most people think and behave. The marchers are just as likely to eat in a restaurant, go shopping or visit a museum as any other person in London. Some may even stay overnight and fill up hotels.

Widen all you want I don't have to go with it.
I'm sticking to the Islamophobia present in the comments. Including the inaccurate assertion the marchers wear masks most don't. And any that do can be asked to remove them.

And the disruption is no worse than any football crowd.

There's no point making this another bad tempered thread. The OP specifically wanted to discuss the London aspect, et voilà.

Anniebach

Thread about MP’s making Islamophobia comments does take discussion away from the hideous antisemitism in this country,

Yeah, spot on, I did wonder why this thread had been started.

Glorianny

Joseann

For those who don't know the geography, this is Oxford Circus on the Central Line, you can see the underground symbol. How am I supposed to get my train home from shopping in Liberty's with this rabble blocking my passage in broad daylight on a Saturday?

OMG how dare they protest about war crimes and stop you shopping in Liberties!!!!

You’re taking liberties aren’t you? It’s Liberty’s 😁
As an ex Londoner I can tell you that I often worked on a Saturday so had to get into the West End, and when I wasn’t working would go and meet friends, shop or go to the cinema, have a meal or a drink.These weekly marches which have gone on since mid October are a blight on London.

Thread about MP’s making Islamophobia comments does take discussion away from the hideous antisemitism in this country,

And one thing I can’t recollect ever seeing you do Glorianny, is to find anything positive to say about the UK(especially England) or any posters who don’t share your world view. They don’t just have a different take or point of view, they’re just plain wrong

I think the humour being found is at the inaccurate statements you are making about boosts to the economy, location of marches and that Londoners are not disrupted on a frequent basis. The thread has widened out to include all protestor disruption across London.
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Joseann

Wrong Glorianny. Its no joke trying to battle one's way through any marchers, and if I had my DGC with me in Oxford Street I would be very scared.
I chose to use Liberty as an example to make the point that that is exactly why I go into Central London to shop at the weekend. Because Westfield Stratford doesn't have one. Nowhere else does, does it? The pun on the word, then seemed appropriate.
This thread isn't all about the war itself, it is for analysing people's fears, particularly in the capital, as they go about their daily lives.

I thought the thread was about some MPs' making islamophobic comments.

ronib

Glorianny I have zero responsibility for the actions of wars in far flung countries. The inhabitants and politicians there need to take responsibility for their actions and work out solutions. I find it remarkable that I am implicated by you in wars over which I have zero control.

The UK supplies arms to Israel. The UK has frequently and consistently refused to condemn Israel in spite of reports that it is an apartheid state. You may think it is nothing to do with us. Others would disagree and land responsibility entirely with the UK. One of the things the marchers want to demonstrate is that they disagree with these actions and support the people of Gaza who have no voice in the international world.

Glorianny In fact the majority of the population of London do not live in the zones you have mentioned but are in outer London. The actual number depends on how you're classifying inner and outer London. Newham for example doesn't count inner London for statuary purposes but does for statistical purposes. There is a substantial population in zones 1-4, we are not irrelevant.

You were the one claiming where the protestors were marching which is patently wrong. Because your sons didn't go into central London when they lived there must mean no Londoners do is a rather huge assumption. Unable to admit you're wrong you resort to posts like Sorry if I didn't get the humour I'm afraid I find it very difficult to understand how anyone can joke about the awful situation in Gaza and the dreadful Islamophobia which is gripping this country. Nobody is joking about the awful situation in Gaza, it's dishonest and distasteful to say they are.
I think the humour being found is at the inaccurate statements you are making about boosts to the economy, location of marches and that Londoners are not disrupted on a frequent basis. The thread has widened out to include all protestor disruption across London.

Germanshepherdsmum

Nobody is finding humour in the march - do stop twisting things.

Unfortunately, I have realised that some people are unable to separate a jokey side comment from the main thrust of a difficult discussion.
It's black humour and often used in times of war, tense situations when something is often painful to think.
Some people take things very literally and cannot understand it.

Glorianny I have zero responsibility for the actions of wars in far flung countries. The inhabitants and politicians there need to take responsibility for their actions and work out solutions. I find it remarkable that I am implicated by you in wars over which I have zero control.