Islamaphobia is getting out of control

Wrong Glorianny. Its no joke trying to battle one's way through any marchers, and if I had my DGC with me in Oxford Street I would be very scared.
I chose to use Liberty as an example to make the point that that is exactly why I go into Central London to shop at the weekend. Because Westfield Stratford doesn't have one. Nowhere else does, does it? The pun on the word, then seemed appropriate.
This thread isn't all about the war itself, it is for analysing people's fears, particularly in the capital, as they go about their daily lives.

Many on the march wear masks or cover their faces, they were elated when ‘To The River From The Sea ‘ was projected onto
Elizabeth Tower , I didn’t have friends there but saw the videos

Nobody is finding humour in the march - do stop twisting things.

Callistemon21

Glorianny

Sorry if I didn't get the humour I'm afraid I find it very difficult to understand how anyone can joke about the awful situation in Gaza and the dreadful Islamophobia which is gripping this country.

Absolutely no-one is doing that so do not try to suggest they are.

Indirectly they are. They joke about the march. The march is protesting about Gaza. They evidently find humour in that, I don't.

ronib

*Joseann*. What is the ‘must have’ buy from Liberty these days?
Since when have people marching around ever stopped war crimes? Glorianny It didn’t stop the Biafran war ? In fact I remember the late Queen welcoming the new president of Nigeria in very regal style. In fact I was unable to wave or smile at the entourage in London - I was frozen in horror.

What is all this "It didn't work then" or "look at another conflict"? does it somehow make people feel better about what is happening. Is it really a way of simply washing your hands of responsibility?

Glorianny

Sorry if I didn't get the humour I'm afraid I find it very difficult to understand how anyone can joke about the awful situation in Gaza and the dreadful Islamophobia which is gripping this country.

Absolutely no-one is doing that so do not try to suggest they are.

Joseann

I'm at liberty to shop wherever I choose! Without disruption.

In my zone we have nearly 200 primary schools. So no one lives there then?

I expect the protestors will all descend on Liberty after their protesting!
That should boost the economy.

Oh no! It's owned by a private equity firm!

Sorry if I didn't get the humour I'm afraid I find it very difficult to understand how anyone can joke about the awful situation in Gaza and the dreadful Islamophobia which is gripping this country.

Joseann. What is the ‘must have’ buy from Liberty these days?
Since when have people marching around ever stopped war crimes? Glorianny It didn’t stop the Biafran war ? In fact I remember the late Queen welcoming the new president of Nigeria in very regal style. In fact I was unable to wave or smile at the entourage in London - I was frozen in horror.

Joseann

I'm at liberty to shop wherever I choose! Without disruption.

In my zone we have nearly 200 primary schools. So no one lives there then?

I didn't say "no-one lives there" I said the majority of people live in Outer London. Check it out.

I thought in the interests of the history of marches we should have this women marching through London to demand the vote (I bet there were women then complaining they couldn't get to Liberty's!) player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-demonstration-of-suffragettes-1910-online

Germanshepherdsmum

You don’t seem very clued up about London zoning Glorianny.

Don’t you realise the reference to shopping at Liberty (singular btw) was tongue in cheek?

Correct!

I'm at liberty to shop wherever I choose! Without disruption.

In my zone we have nearly 200 primary schools. So no one lives there then?

Glorianny

GrannyGravy13

I really do not give a damn who is marching or for what reason.

1,000’s of people marching through our capital city, blocking roads, along with Saturday nights blocking of Tower Bridge and setting off flares, is not something I want to be anywhere near. Whether it’s just DH and AC or any of the GC.

There has been a pro-Palestinian march in London every Saturday since Hamas’s deplorable actions on 7/10 and the subsequent retaliatory attacks by Israel.

How about a fraction of empathy/compassion for those living and/or working near these routes, shops and hospitality are no doubt losing money.

Have you any evidence for any of those accusations?
I'll counter you with this. Thousands of people descending on London at the weekend is in fact boosting the economy. Since Covid London has lost a substantial amount of trade. If you wanted a cheap hotel room weekends were best because weekdays were taken up by working Londoners who've moved out of town. The marchers buy coffees and eat lunches. Some of them stay the night. It is in fact an economic driver. There are also huge numbers of coaches and trains involved and service stations en route.

Thousands of people descending on London at the weekend is in fact boosting the economy
😂

This from someone who was so against the Coronation!
Visit England saying the overall boon in England alone from the Coronation will be £1.2 billion 7 May 2023

Best keep protesting, it boosts the economy.
Not sure how, as it prevents many others going about their lawful business.
Do you have some figures please, Glorianny?

I agree it was wrong for Met police to stand by and do nothing when that rivers to seas slogan was beamed onto the tower. I also think it's wrong for any protestors to climb on was memorials. I get really furious when the Met police just stand and watch. They should be arresting those responsible. It's a sad day when the speaker of the house of commons is so worried about protesters outside harming MP's he goes against the advice of the chief clerk who's job is to advice on constitutional correctness. We can't have mobs of protesters undermining our democracy. I think mobs of protesters whatever they are protesting about are too much. Instead they should have a token protest with just maybe 100 people with the placards and if they make a nuisance of themselves by climbing war memorials or blocking traffic they should be arrested.

You don’t seem very clued up about London zoning Glorianny.

Don’t you realise the reference to shopping at Liberty (singular btw) was tongue in cheek?

Joseann

For those who don't know the geography, this is Oxford Circus on the Central Line, you can see the underground symbol. How am I supposed to get my train home from shopping in Liberty's with this rabble blocking my passage in broad daylight on a Saturday?

OMG how dare they protest about war crimes and stop you shopping in Liberties!!!!

MaizieD

Callistemon21

I don't care what religion they are, they disrupt.

Go and shout at Speaker's Corner.

Anyone would think that you have just discovered that large scale protests can by noisy and disruptive. But they've been going on for decades... with varying degrees of sympathy from the general public.

You couldn't fit them all in Speakers' Corner...

You can think what you like but it doesn't mean you'd be correct.

Joseann

^But if you think there are substantial numbers of Londoners in central London on a Saturday you know very little about London^.
Until very recently I was a zone 4 London inhabitant. DH and I both worked in Zones 2 and 3.
Of course we went into Central London, Zone 1, most weekends to meet up with friends, to shop, to go to shows, to eat in restaurants etc. That's what every Londoner I know does. For our kids Central London was their playground, and they would hop up there on the Central Line every Saturday and Sunday. We would check first for both engineering works and protests in London on a regular basis because both caused disruption to plans.

Well presumably you only know a certain number of Londoners. In fact the majority of the population of London do not live in the zones you have mentioned but are in outer London. As I said substantial numbers of Londoners are not in that area. You and your children (how old are they?) might have been. When my sons lived in London they seldom visited the centre because of cost, and they were working.

Cossy

I am pretty sure 99% of us here to like to see the end of all current wars, would support any peaceful protests and would believe our MPs, whatever their political allegiance and personal beliefs, should not make personal tweets or statements which the know will inflame hatred towards any specific groups of people.

We might have slightly different beliefs to each other, but I’ve not seen any one poster here supporting violence or terrorism. As I’m not really religious at all maybe it’s easier for me to remain slightly more neutral than others?

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No, I think you're on the right track with that post, Cossy.

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Joseann you are surely mistaken, the protestors march through areas of museums, hotels and unoccupied foreign owned houses, Glorianny knows these things.

Oops

For those who don't know the geography, this is Oxford Circus on the Central Line, you can see the underground symbol. How am I supposed to get my train home from shopping in Liberty's with this rabble blocking my passage in broad daylight on a Saturday?

Joseann, don’t disagree with the oracle