Too many British families are hungry!

MissAdventure

Now, if I said, "I live on benefits, in a council flat and dont sit at the table to eat.
Can't afford wine, so me and grandson have a can of lager with our dinner....."

It's none of my business 🤗

None of it's true, by the way.
The benefits part, but not the rest.

I'm just imagining the response I'd get.

MissAdventure

None of it's true, by the way.
The benefits part, but not the rest.

I'm just imagining the response I'd get.

I appreciate where you were going with it. My answer is still the same 🤗

That's nice to know.

Re the nappies, most of the mums I know use a mixture of washable nappies and disposables.
Each of my daughters have done this, including the eldest, with twins - in Scandinavia. The prize, however, surely goes to a goddaughter of mine who used terry nappies for her three- under - two scenario ( a singleton then twins) Most clued up mums are conscious of the landfill mountain of paper and poo disposables cause. I do understand, of course, that this presupposes a washing machine and space to dry inside in poor weather.

MissA - what a disappointment. I was hoping that you'd be enjoying your lager just now.

Oh no chance!!
I can't speak for my grandson though.

As far as I know, he doesn't drink, but what do I know?

Were the children who aren't toilet trained the ones who lost out on playgroups and from visits from Health Visitors during lockdowns? Probably, as today's reception children would have been around 2 during Covid.

I know my niece had a baby in Covid, and she didn't get any ante-natal support. There were no HV visits after the baby was born, and no playgroups were open. As it happens, the mum is from a large and supportive family, so her baby is fine, but had she been on her own with a first baby/toddler, she would have had nobody to help her, and maybe potty training would have been difficult.

I learnt a lot from books as did DD.
Somehow people who live in remote communities manage to toilet train their toddlers.

Ah, but what about people without pottys?

MissAdventure

Ah, but what about people without pottys?

You don't need potties out bush 😃

Callistemon21

I learnt a lot from books as did DD.
Somehow people who live in remote communities manage to toilet train their toddlers.

Yes, I'm sure it's perfectly possible. But if someone's struggling in the first place - maybe a very young first time mum - and there is no help available, even from family and neighbours, it can't be easy.

I don't know, the idea that the increase in untrained four year olds might be linked to lockdowns was just a thought.

I don't know, the idea that the increase in untrained four year olds might be linked to lockdowns was just a thought

Yes, possible.

Although locking down for a week or two was what I did when mine needed toilet training!

MissAdventure

Ah, but what about people without pottys? grin

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I tried to “train” all mine in warmer months! Less clothes to rip off!

Were the children who aren't toilet trained the ones who lost out on playgroups and from visits from Health Visitors during lockdowns? Probably, as today's reception children would have been around 2 during Covid.

It was happening 20years ago, Dd. There was no covid then.

I find it impossible to make judgements about the parenting by those who have not had the privileges that I have had in life; who might have grown up in families where a whole generation's jobs had been wiped out and living on benefit was the norm; whose parents have not had a good education; whose families are suffering from ill health (mental or physical).

People are the product of their upbringings. This is why it is vital that proper services are available for parents to prevent this deprivation (moral, social, financial, educational health and more) and that our education system helps young people to rise above difficult childhoods.

Apportioning blame; looking at people as feckless and a sub-class gets us nowhere. Sound government policies are the way forward, but in our democracy policies with quick results that catch votes win the day.

I still don't understand why living on benefits, being under-privileged and not having a good education means that parents would not potty train a toddler.
The cost of disposable nappies per week should be enough to incentivise anyone, surely? Even more so if money is tight.
Monthly pack of Pampers is about £45.
Even Lidl nappies, much cheaper but still a dent in the weekly budget.

Luckygirl3

I agree. It’s about support, understanding and providing practical help in way of decent support services

Callistemon21

I still don't understand why living on benefits, being under-privileged and not having a good education means that parents would not potty train a toddler.
The cost of disposable nappies per week should be enough to incentivise anyone, surely? Even more so if money is tight.
Monthly pack of Pampers is about £45.
Even Lidl nappies, much cheaper but still a dent in the weekly budget.

I'm not sure why the assumption is being made that poverty equals poor parenting skills.

I don't think that's what Calli is saying - more that if you are on a tight budget the thought that by potty training you would save a chunk of money would be an incentive.

MaizieD

Callistemon21

I still don't understand why living on benefits, being under-privileged and not having a good education means that parents would not potty train a toddler.
The cost of disposable nappies per week should be enough to incentivise anyone, surely? Even more so if money is tight.
Monthly pack of Pampers is about £45.
Even Lidl nappies, much cheaper but still a dent in the weekly budget.

I'm not sure why the assumption is being made that poverty equals poor parenting skills.

How on earth did you manage to extrapolate that from what I posted?

😂😂😂

Doodledog

I don't think that's what Calli is saying - more that if you are on a tight budget the thought that by potty training you would save a chunk of money would be an incentive.

Thank you Doodledog, that is it exactly and obvious from my post.
£40 per month not being spent on pull-ups, toddler nappies, is £40 per month more to spend on food or other necessities..

The cost of disposable nappies per week should be enough to incentivise anyone, surely? Even more so if money is tight.

Couldn't be clearer, could it ?

Very clear to me.

Germanshepherdsmum

Very clear to me.

The title of the thread is:

Too many British families are hungry!
Every £ spent on disposable nappies for toddlers and school-age children without disabilities is a £ that could be spent on food for those children.

Hope that is clear enough.