Too many British families are hungry!

It's not a lot different these days.
For every single mum, there is a single father somewhere, going about his life, shirking his responsibilities, in some cases.

They never seem to be even considered when thinking about child poverty.
Soup is apparently more important.

MissAdventure

Some people have neither.
It happens.

I had help from both "sides". But often came with conditions and assumptions. Yes, I was lucky but I did wonder sometimes if it was worth the stress! 😭

Very true JJ. There was no option, no other facilities. I will always be very grateful for my parents’ help. I had no financial or other support from my ex husband.

Some people have neither.
It happens.

gsm has said her parents helped with childcare when she worked when a single mum. Family help is essential if you have no other help

Primrose53

People who had a poor start in life need an “up” to work to not a “down” like many of you are implying. Progress can be made, however slow.

On another thread we were discussing our childhoods and the majority on here came from poor backgrounds, myself included.

Remember, back then there were no benefits or handouts so you HAD to work out ways to feed your families or the kids would end up in care. I lived in a road with families of 8, 10 and even 12 kids and they were poorer than us. GSM tells how she had to raise a child as a single parent but it sounds like she has done OK for herself. I was lucky enough to be married but by the time we paid bills, clothed the kids and paid for fuel to get to work in an old banger there was nothing left over. I really had to budget hard but I did it!

If people go round telling folk they shouldn’t bother making soup and why bother buying a slow cooker or a little ring to cook on when you can spend that money on unnecessary rubbish then you discourage them from trying to improve things. It is so negative.

Once again, you're twisting people's words.

Nobody is suggesting ANY of the above. Nobody is suggesting folk should just live off benefits and scr3w the state for what they can get.
I struggle to comprehend, as I always have, why ANYONE would want the people of today to "just get on with things" the way people did in the "old days'. My dad still tells the story of how he was a "War Baby" and didn't have a banana until he was five. Do you seriously want that for your grandchildren?! Outside toilets - those too maybe? And how about a touch of polio into the mix?
Yes, life was harder back then, there wasn't the support that there is now and things were tough. But WHY would you want people to struggle the same now, because that's what's implied?!
Things have progressed, allegedly improved and life has apparently become easier.
I was pretty much a single parent to 2 kids, it wasn't always easy & support was minimal (along with other issues which are nobody's business but mine) but would I want that for my kids now to "teach them a lesson" or show them "how it used to be"? Of course not.
It isn't about making soup, nor buying cheap vegetables, it's about one's capacity to follow a process from start to finish and, most of all, be able to finance it.

MissAdventure

I don't need help budgeting, or cooking, or making soups.
Everyone I've known who has struggles has far more going on than being too daft to cook.

👏👏👏

I don't need help budgeting, or cooking, or making soups.
Everyone I've known who has struggles has far more going on than being too daft to cook.

biglouis

*SeaWoozle. For an apparently new poster, you are very rude and opinionated*

So is there a hierarchy of posters with only the "regulars" allowed to be rude and opinionated?

People who had a poor start in life need an “up” to work to not a “down” like many of you are implying. Progress can be made, however slow.

On another thread we were discussing our childhoods and the majority on here came from poor backgrounds, myself included.

Remember, back then there were no benefits or handouts so you HAD to work out ways to feed your families or the kids would end up in care. I lived in a road with families of 8, 10 and even 12 kids and they were poorer than us. GSM tells how she had to raise a child as a single parent but it sounds like she has done OK for herself. I was lucky enough to be married but by the time we paid bills, clothed the kids and paid for fuel to get to work in an old banger there was nothing left over. I really had to budget hard but I did it!

If people go round telling folk they shouldn’t bother making soup and why bother buying a slow cooker or a little ring to cook on when you can spend that money on unnecessary rubbish then you discourage them from trying to improve things. It is so negative.

Dolly17

Seawoozle you are a breath of fresh air on these threads! I don't post often as I'm dismayed by some of the attitudes expressed on GN. Please keep on posting

🤗🤗🤗. Thank You 🤗🤗🤗

biglouis

*SeaWoozle. For an apparently new poster, you are very rude and opinionated*

So is there a hierarchy of posters with only the "regulars" allowed to be rude and opinionated?

Hadn't noticed who posted and I'm not really bothered.

As stated previously, I will defend to the hilt someone's right to free speech. I will also defend someone's right to reply, including my own.

And so sorry you, whoever you are, find me opinionated. Get over it 😊

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SeaWoozle. For an apparently new poster, you are very rude and opinionated

So is there a hierarchy of posters with only the "regulars" allowed to be rude and opinionated?

Freya5

SeaWoozle

Germanshepherdsmum

Your evidence for that is … ? As opposed to the evidence of my own eyes, and Primrose’s? People have no idea how to cook nowadays. My mother and grandmother managed on very little money. And I mean very little. They knew how to make a meal out of next to nothing . I think many of today’s hard up mothers would prioritise getting their nails done and buying false eyelashes from what I have seen in television interviews .

You can buy both from pound shops.

People are allowed to look good and feel nice, even if it's maybe the last of their cash and cost them next to nothing from a pound shop (where I used to work we sold both for £1 each). I struggle to comprehend how people can be so £&#@ing spiteful & judgemental. People on low incomes should NOT have to justify their spending to people who have "more" than them.

If some of these folk here were my parents (because most are probably old enough to be) I'd disown you.

You can look and feel good without either of those false additions. A waste of money. Times change though, these are now deemed essentials to looking good, and not their natural attributes.

Are you that rare creature who never dyed her hair, had a perm, plucked her eyebrows to oblivion, sported an overdone fake tan or spent more than she could afford on clothes which barely covered her decency Freya5? Most of us looked as alien in our time to our elders as modern young women obviously look to you now.

Germanshepherdsmum

Your evidence for that is … ? As opposed to the evidence of my own eyes, and Primrose’s? People have no idea how to cook nowadays. My mother and grandmother managed on very little money. And I mean very little. They knew how to make a meal out of next to nothing . I think many of today’s hard up mothers would prioritise getting their nails done and buying false eyelashes from what I have seen in television interviews .

Bingo

MissAdventure

May as well get it all out the way.
Latest iPhones, broadband, fake nails..

Don't forget flat screen tv. As if there is any other type, but hey, why let facts get in the way

SeaWoozle

Germanshepherdsmum

Your evidence for that is … ? As opposed to the evidence of my own eyes, and Primrose’s? People have no idea how to cook nowadays. My mother and grandmother managed on very little money. And I mean very little. They knew how to make a meal out of next to nothing . I think many of today’s hard up mothers would prioritise getting their nails done and buying false eyelashes from what I have seen in television interviews .

You can buy both from pound shops.

People are allowed to look good and feel nice, even if it's maybe the last of their cash and cost them next to nothing from a pound shop (where I used to work we sold both for £1 each). I struggle to comprehend how people can be so £&#@ing spiteful & judgemental. People on low incomes should NOT have to justify their spending to people who have "more" than them.

If some of these folk here were my parents (because most are probably old enough to be) I'd disown you.

You can look and feel good without either of those false additions. A waste of money. Times change though, these are now deemed essentials to looking good, and not their natural attributes.

Primrose53

I don’t believe it. There are breakfast clubs, after school clubs, food banks, community fridges. Supermarkets doing great deals on fruit and veg. Some cafes giving free kids meals if parents have a meal. Free school meals for ALL young kids. None of which were available when I was a kid.

I saw no evidence during half term that people are hungry. Everywhere I went families were out eating fish and chips, McDonalds, KFC, burgers on market stalls etc.

Some people don’t know how to budget and choose to spend their money on things other than food so they come to rely on handouts and it becomes the norm.

Sigh

Seawoozle you are a breath of fresh air on these threads! I don't post often as I'm dismayed by some of the attitudes expressed on GN. Please keep on posting

Do people go into "the poor's" homes and inspect what's in their freezers, now?
Do they loiter around takeaway places and monitor the financial situation of everyone before they they order?

SeaWoozle

Callistemon21

Of course.

Though I'm in Wales and it happens already/will be happening very soon for all children up to year 6.

Why the whole of the UK can't come to the same arrangement is beyond me.

Unfortunately my DGC have just missed out. Y7 and up!

It seems to make sense to me. Children are our future.

Callistemon21

Of course.

Though I'm in Wales and it happens already/will be happening very soon for all children up to year 6.

Why the whole of the UK can't come to the same arrangement is beyond me.

keepcalmandcavachon

If some of these folk here were my parents (because most are probably old enough to be) I'd disown you.

Please don't disown me SeaWoozle, because if you were MY daughter I'd be so Bl**dy proud of you!

🤗🤗🤗. Thank you 🤗🤗🤗

SeaWoozle

Callistemon21

Oh, that made me choke 🤣🤣🤣
I expect they might be glad (no offence intended 😁)

😁 No offence taken 🤗 Who would possibly want a daughter like me? Speaking up for those with no voice and being a right PITA regarding people's rights and freedom to live their best life?!

Pffft.

Sh00t me now 🤣

Please will you start campaigning for free school dinners for all children, not means-tested?