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George Galloway is the MP for Rochdale

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Iam64 Fri 01-Mar-24 08:17:26

He did refer to some local issues but his campaign was about Palestine-Israel. His win was resounding and his victory speech focussed on telling Keir Starmer his stance on Gaza is a major problem for Labour. Galloway’s latest party is called the the workers party, I think. Will they put up candidates in other northern former mill towns with large communities of people of Muslim fairy? (like my town)

Casdon Thu 07-Mar-24 14:37:14

Nicenanny3

But Johnson was never a Hamas terrorist supporter/friend for all his faults was he.

Neither was or is Starmer Nicenanny3. Neither is he a dishonest, self serving fool, but there you go.

Iam64 Thu 07-Mar-24 15:05:03

Thanks Casdon.

Nicenanny3 Thu 07-Mar-24 15:23:30

I'm not sticking up for Johnson he had plenty of faults but you cannot hide the fact that Keir Starmer supported and campaigned for Jeremy Corbyn who he knew regarded Hamas a known terrorist group as his friends to become our Prime Minister can you.

Casdon Thu 07-Mar-24 16:01:19

Corbyn became leader of the Labour Party in 2015 NiceNanny3. Starmer was elected as an MP for the first time in 2015. He did not vote for Corbyn to be Labour leader in either 2015 or 2016. As with all parties, publicly the MPs are expected to support their party to get into power, whether they voted for the leader or not. Johnson publicly supported May if you remember, so pray tell, what’s the difference?

Nicenanny3 Thu 07-Mar-24 16:08:56

Given that it was the first time many in the room will have heard the Labour leader, he could have taken the opportunity to address concerns about his support for Jeremy Corbyn during the period when antisemitism poisoned the party.

After all, in 2019, he said, ‘I do think Jeremy Corbyn would make a great Prime Minister’.

When Louise Ellman said that Corbyn was ‘a danger to the Jewish community’, Starmer insisted: ‘I don’t accept that. I don’t accept that’.

And in 2020 during the leadership election, he even attacked those who campaigned against him, saying: ‘The attacks on Jeremy Corbyn were terrible, they vilified him.’
(TheJC.com)

Casdon Thu 07-Mar-24 16:14:05

Do you want me to dig out what praise Johnson gave May during the election campaign too, which proves equally nothing at all?
The salient fact is that Corbyn was removed from the Labour Party by Starmer when he refused to condemn Hamas terrorism.

Galaxy Thu 07-Mar-24 16:15:14

I loathed Corbyn, under no circumstances fo I think Starmer should be giving him any airtime so to speak.

M0nica Thu 07-Mar-24 16:16:24

Starmer did not need to say he was opposed to anti-semitiam, everyone knew that he was.

Sometime in politics and in life, one has to play the long game and know when to just say npothing or nothing much. Because Starmer did what he did, he has been able to become leader of the Labour party and drag it out of the swamp Corbyn led it into.

I am not a labour supporter, but I do understand that art of politics is often as much about what you do not say or do as what you do say or do.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 07-Mar-24 16:25:08

Unfortunately, what you say is on record and comes back to bite you. What Starmer said was not playing the long game’. Especially given that his wife is Jewish, I find his comments indicative of weakness and sycophancy.

Casdon Thu 07-Mar-24 16:49:16

Germanshepherdsmum

Unfortunately, what you say is on record and comes back to bite you. What Starmer said was not playing the long game’. Especially given that his wife is Jewish, I find his comments indicative of weakness and sycophancy.

Of course you do Germanshepherdsmum because they reinforce your beliefs. If you could name any politician who hasn’t said things they have later regretted or made no mistakes we’d no doubt all be deifying him or her. Off the top of my head I’m struggling to think of anybody, least of all a political leader.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 07-Mar-24 16:54:09

There’s saying things you later regret - and there’s making the statements which Starmer did.

Casdon Thu 07-Mar-24 17:03:40

Seriously?!

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 07-Mar-24 17:06:52

Yes - to me it smacks of chucking his wife and her family under a bus, for the sake of personal ambition.

Casdon Thu 07-Mar-24 17:17:33

Words fail me.
Just a humorous reminder of a far from humorous parallel. Starmer smells of roses in comparison.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=5tsyBj-lMj8
(It’s a bit risqué for some, be warned).

Iam64 Thu 07-Mar-24 17:59:29

In what way did Starmer chuck his wife and children under a bus? Everything known about him says he’s a loyal, loving father and husband.

Galaxy Thu 07-Mar-24 18:01:16

He didnt.
He is ambitious though. This is a good thing in a labour leader, a novelty in the last few years, but a good thing grin

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 07-Mar-24 18:26:15

His support of the antisemitic Corbyn, set out above, Iam, his wife being Jewish. I referred also to her family, not his children, as I don’t know if they are being brought up in the Jewish faith.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 07-Mar-24 18:50:15

Freya5

Urmstongran

I think that was Richard Tice’s post on ‘X’.
GG denies this.
He says ‘ask the Police’ as there is no proof.

You really think this is done openly, who called the police when the harassment occurred,no one as too scared possibly. The teacher still in hiding, with his family.remember. A sad day for this country when a left wing anti semite extremist is elected as an mp.
Can see the uproar on gransnet if he had been right wing.

Galloway isn’t left wing😄

Casdon Thu 07-Mar-24 18:59:56

Germanshepherdsmum

His support of the antisemitic Corbyn, set out above, Iam, his wife being Jewish. I referred also to her family, not his children, as I don’t know if they are being brought up in the Jewish faith.

Yes his children are being brought up in the Jewish faith. You’re way out of order.

Anniebach Thu 07-Mar-24 19:03:13

Galloway is far left wing

maddyone Thu 07-Mar-24 19:41:53

All children born to a Jewish mother are considered Jewish, so KS would have known that any children born in the marriage would be Jewish. I don’t know how observant the family are though, and given it is a mixed marriage, I would think not very, but who knows?
Anyway, this thread is about George Galloway and I don’t see any of the party leaders condoning him.

Casdon Thu 07-Mar-24 19:45:03

Here you are maddyone, this explains all.
www.timesofisrael.com/uk-labour-leader-starmer-opens-up-about-his-familys-jewish-traditions/

Iam64 Thu 07-Mar-24 20:03:13

Starmer has always been open about the fact his wife follows her faith and their children are growing up in thst faith
He tries to avoid working on Friday evening as they keep Shabbat - family evening meal

maddyone Thu 07-Mar-24 20:54:32

Thanks Casdon, I’ll have a look at that.

I think it’s lovely that KS and his family celebrate Shabbat together. Not that he needs my approval.