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Dogs and cats on planes sitting with passengers.

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nanna8 Thu 07-Mar-24 07:39:28

Virgin Australia are saying they are going to allow dogs and cats to travel in the passenger parts of planes. Personally I think this is not a good idea, particularly if something dangerous were to occur and there had to be a forced landing. I wouldn’t use that company if they decide on this. Back to the dreaded Qantas for me!

maddyone Sat 09-Mar-24 08:07:33

A lot of people have severe allergy to birds and feathers, so I think having birds onboard, especially flying around would be quite dangerous, not to mention that birds do their droppings anywhere and it could easily drop on passengers, on the floor, on people’s food. Very, very unhygienic.

BlueBelle Sat 09-Mar-24 05:41:50

Canadiangran you wait! it may happen We never allowed dogs in restaurants, cafes or shops until very recently
I hate it and when I see these cat cafes with cats sitting round everywhere on the tables etc I feel sick
There is a place for animals and it isn’t around public eating areas

nanna8 Sat 09-Mar-24 05:30:43

Years ago we were flying around China and there were chooks on board flapping around . We thought it was very funny at the time, especially as they didn’t even shut the overhead storage bins, just let them flap up and down. Just after the Tiananmen Square massacre. No dogs or cats,though, thank goodness. Not like that there now, I hasten to add.

PamelaJ1 Sat 09-Mar-24 05:23:44

I heard this on the news yesterday.
The dogs would have to be confined in a container and go under the seat in front.
So…. Very small dogs only and I got the impression that this would only be for short domestic flights.
We were in the car with my DD’s Jack Russell so we spent a good deal of the journey wondering what he would make of it all.
Seems strange as they don’t even allow dogs on trains and buses in Australia.

Louella12 Fri 08-Mar-24 20:15:56

There's a Great Dane on tiktok who appears to spend an awful lot of time flying business class and venturing into the cockpit. Just gorgeous.

Also clips of military dogs sitting beautifully.

I'd be over the moon to sit by a dog on a plane . Far better than being sat by a human.

Glorianny Fri 08-Mar-24 20:07:23

GrannyGravy13

Glorianny

Do people with allergies never travel on buses or trains? They allow dogs and cats, with no cage or holder. As the air on them isn't filtered like on planes aren't they more dangerous?

It is possible to get off of a train or bus at the next stop along with opening a window, both of which are impossible on an aircraft.

You can't open windows on modern trains and some have longish journeys between stops. Local flights are quite often shorter. Fly Newcastle to London in 1hr 40mins.
Trains stop at Durham and York then straight to London 2hrs 09 mins.
I am just wondering about allergies and not trying to be difficult. Perhaps trains need dedicated coaches a Pet Coach, like the Quiet Coach???

CanadianGran Fri 08-Mar-24 19:25:37

Airlines here allow pets in carriers that fit under the seat. When we bought our pup I travelled home by plane with her. Any larger animals have to go as cargo. Same goes for buses or trains, the pet carrier has to fit on your lap instead of under the seat. No larger pets at all unless certified guide dogs.

However, we do not allow pets in restaurants at all, unlike in UK.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 08-Mar-24 17:42:02

LOUISA1523

My friend works in middle East....she's seen falcons flying first class with their owner ,shes told me

Qatari, Etihad, Emirates and Royal Jordanian Airlines all allow falcons in the passenger cabin.

LOUISA1523 Fri 08-Mar-24 17:39:28

My friend works in middle East....she's seen falcons flying first class with their owner ,shes told me

maddyone Fri 08-Mar-24 17:35:29

My little grandson, who lives in New Zealand is terrified of dogs. They have their own dog, a gorgeous white Labrador (who incidentally when she travelled to New Zealand, had to travel in the hold, or some other place away from passengers. I know there was someone to look after the animals as on a long flight they need feeding and toilet breaks) and my grandson is fine with their dog, but terrified of other dogs. And I mean terrified. He suffers from very bad anxiety and if he got on a plane and found a dog nearby, he would be extremely anxious. There should be no need for a situation such as this to occur if animals don’t travel in the cabin.

Re unpleasant passengers, I do agree with MissInterpreted in that we cannot control who we are next to on a flight. I remember one a time when my husband and I were flying back from somewhere in Europe, and it was before the time when you could select your seats online, and when we checked in at the airport, we had to sit apart. My poor husband was between two other passengers and one of them stank to high heaven. I could smell him from the row behind and across the aisle, but my poor husband! Luckily the flight was only a couple of hours, but imagine that. And there’s nothing you can do about it.

lixy Fri 08-Mar-24 17:09:04

Callistemon21

Virgin Australia is an airline to avoid anyway.
Even more so now; what a stupid idea. Some people are fearful of dogs and some are allergic to cats and even some dogs.

Passengers should be warned in advance if animals will be in the cabin.

Absolutely agree with this.
DD's asthma is triggered by dogs and cats, not 'just' hay fever type symptoms.
GS is worried about dogs having been knocked over as a small child by an out-of-control Alsatian in the park.
They are fairly frequent fliers.

And, quite apart from that, where's the space in the passenger cabin? Barely room for our own legs!
Animals in the hold please.

AGAA4 Fri 08-Mar-24 16:55:35

Glorianny

Do people with allergies never travel on buses or trains? They allow dogs and cats, with no cage or holder. As the air on them isn't filtered like on planes aren't they more dangerous?

I rarely travel by bus or train. If there is a dog in a carriage I move to another. I prefer to stand for the whole journey than have an asthma attack.

Joseann Fri 08-Mar-24 16:54:52

It is possible to get off of a train or bus at the next stop along with opening a window, both of which are impossible on an aircraft.
Makes sense.

Joseann Fri 08-Mar-24 16:52:38

There are some interesting points here. I would think twice now on hearing how dangerous it might be for some.
We had 3 school dogs who had access to roam everywhere. We also had 2 cats, rabbits, guinea-pigs and gerbils. I'm feeling a bit relieved now that there were no allergic incidents. (It really didn't cross my mind at the time, and no one mentioned anything).

GrannyGravy13 Fri 08-Mar-24 16:48:23

Glorianny

Do people with allergies never travel on buses or trains? They allow dogs and cats, with no cage or holder. As the air on them isn't filtered like on planes aren't they more dangerous?

It is possible to get off of a train or bus at the next stop along with opening a window, both of which are impossible on an aircraft.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 08-Mar-24 16:35:33

Having a life threatening allergy has to be factored in all day and every day.

It is not something I would wish on my worst enemy.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 08-Mar-24 16:33:52

Glorianny

Do people with allergies never travel on buses or trains? They allow dogs and cats, with no cage or holder. As the air on them isn't filtered like on planes aren't they more dangerous?

I never travel by bus, and on the very very rare occasion I travel by train I always have all my medication in my handbag.

Glorianny Fri 08-Mar-24 16:22:36

Do people with allergies never travel on buses or trains? They allow dogs and cats, with no cage or holder. As the air on them isn't filtered like on planes aren't they more dangerous?

Joseann Fri 08-Mar-24 14:31:10

I think most pet owners would pay a visit to their vet for a check up before taking a flight. We were given a light sedative to give to the animal before the journey. The idea is that they mostly sleep, but of course it doesn't help if there are long delays or if there are connecting flights as in our case where he woke up raring to go when the pills wore off!

Fair2good Fri 08-Mar-24 13:07:18

I hope they’re all well behaved dogs ! I wouldn’t be too happy sitting near some poor creature barking the whole trip !
We were on a bus last week and someone got on with the most beautiful miniature schnauzer I’ve ever seen. But the poor little thing obviously didn’t like being on the bus and barked solidly for thirty minutes !

GrannyGravy13 Fri 08-Mar-24 12:09:32

Callistemon21

I've never seen flowers or plants on a plane 🤔

I have flown home carrying bridesmaids bouquets, from mainland Europe and the Caribbean.

MissInterpreted Fri 08-Mar-24 12:09:29

Rosie51

MissInterpreted

maddyone

Cossy imagine sitting on the seat where a dog has had its bottom!
Larger dogs are allowed on American internal flights.
Thankfully not here.
Preferably not anywhere, and in my opinion, not even smaller ones in carry cages.

Have you seen how some humans behave on flights? As I said, I wouldn't take my dog on a flight, but given that I've had to sit beside or near some extremely badly behaved humans, on balance I think I'd rather sit next to a dog.

I was waiting for the "rather dogs than badly behaved children" type of post. I'm assuming you're including badly behaved adults in your humans. If sitting next to a dog could bring on a life threatening asthma attack would you still prefer that to an obnoxious human?

Please don't put words into my mouth. My post made no mention whatsoever of children - nor was I, in this instance, talking about people with allergies or asthma as I was purely talking about my own personal experiences and opinions. I was referring to badly behaved humans of the adult variety.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 08-Mar-24 12:07:48

Dee1012

While I appreciate the concerns of those with allergies - guide dogs are allowed in the cabin.

www.caa.co.uk/passengers/prm/travelling-with-an-assistance-dog/#:~:text=Airlines%20must%20accept%20all%20assistance,usually%20a%20little%20more%20space).

Do those with allergies check one isn't likely to be on board?

Yes!

Rosie51 Fri 08-Mar-24 11:41:03

MissInterpreted

maddyone

Cossy imagine sitting on the seat where a dog has had its bottom!
Larger dogs are allowed on American internal flights.
Thankfully not here.
Preferably not anywhere, and in my opinion, not even smaller ones in carry cages.

Have you seen how some humans behave on flights? As I said, I wouldn't take my dog on a flight, but given that I've had to sit beside or near some extremely badly behaved humans, on balance I think I'd rather sit next to a dog.

I was waiting for the "rather dogs than badly behaved children" type of post. I'm assuming you're including badly behaved adults in your humans. If sitting next to a dog could bring on a life threatening asthma attack would you still prefer that to an obnoxious human?

MissInterpreted Fri 08-Mar-24 11:33:32

maddyone

Cossy imagine sitting on the seat where a dog has had its bottom!
Larger dogs are allowed on American internal flights.
Thankfully not here.
Preferably not anywhere, and in my opinion, not even smaller ones in carry cages.

Have you seen how some humans behave on flights? As I said, I wouldn't take my dog on a flight, but given that I've had to sit beside or near some extremely badly behaved humans, on balance I think I'd rather sit next to a dog.