So how many were arrested ?
A drop in the ocean in the great schemes of things....but replicated by how many more
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So how many were arrested ?
Anniebach
Freya so frightening, a man can be arrested for speaking the truth, obvious from the first march where the police stood .
He wasn't arrested for speaking anything, He was arrested because there was fighting and de-arrested when his part in it became obvious.
The attack on the painting wasn’t in support of Palastine !
The trouble is that it distracts people from a very real issue and makes them not sympathetic at all. I think they are basically vandals and I am sure those who are genuinely concerned about lives lost and starvation in Gaza would not support them. They are damaging not just the statues but their whole cause.
Lord Balfour supported the concentration camps of the Boer war and the importation of "Chinese indentured labour" to South Africa.
I'm guessing that many people on this thread were horrified at the toppling of Edward Colton's statue (the slave trader who took pride of place in the centre of Bristol). That single act began the first serious conversations around the inequality in the city (as highlighted by the Runnymede report) and the introduction of the One Curriculum in local schools.
Small but essential steps from an act of "vandalism".
Freya so frightening, a man can be arrested for speaking the truth, obvious from the first march where the police stood .
The man was arrested for assault because there was an affray. He was later de-arrested when the police viewed the film footage. It's a non-story.
Anniebach
One arrest shown on the news this evening, a man with a placard stating Hamas are terrorists
Strange isn't it. Yet flying banned terrorist flags are allowed to carry on. This man was speaking the truth, Hamas has been declared terrorists.
Poor chap jailed for printing leaflets, 2 tears.
The police in London are Islamist sympathisers.
One arrest shown on the news this evening, a man with a placard stating Hamas are terrorists
Thats your UK for you Urms....over 300 years of English rule and look at the mess we're in..Thatcher didn't help by destroying our industry either.PLEASE dont say we've had devolution for 20 years ....we've had a miniscule amount of power over mainly inconsequential things while WM holds the pursestrings and we have to more or less beg for funding.We have around 8% of the population yet this years Barnet payement NOT GRANT .it comes from our own income This year we're getting close to 3 .5 % of UK income as our "share"
I'd love to see the shower of crooks at WM have to live on 3.5% of the income instead they steal and borrow and are Trillions of pounds in debt .
ANY Scottish voter with half a working brain knows we'd be better off on our own.I DO wonder WHY WM doesn't want us to go?
Glorianny. Wanting effective action, wanting all this fighting to stop on all sides regardless of blame doesn’t mean it will happen any time soon sadly. So far, it’s stalemate. Slashing paintings is of no consequence. Hardly helpful is it?
Well paddyanne according to WHO statistics male life expectancy is lower in Scotland than it is in Gaza! Scottish voters may want to ponder on that for a bit.
Glorianny
One of the reasons the suffragettes chose to stone throw, set fires, let off bombs and damage paintings was because they said men cared more for property than people, I wonder how they would feel to find that 100 years later so do a lot of women.
That's incredibly offensive! Condemning vandalism does not equate to valuing property over people and it's quite disgusting of you to imply otherwise. I don't think there is one single woman on these forums that doesn't find the loss of the lives in the middle east and elsewhere tragic and distressing.
If ripping that painting to shreds would actually save lives I'd be there helping as I'm sure would others, but it won't. It's just someone feeding their ego.
Working class ( most) men didn't have the vote either.
Nobody ever talks about that
One of the reasons the suffragettes chose to stone throw, set fires, let off bombs and damage paintings was because they said men cared more for property than people, I wonder how they would feel to find that 100 years later so do a lot of women.
ronib
*Glorianny*. A quarter of the disgust? Why stop there? How about a billion times more disgusted over any war, any death. Okay? Or a trillion times more? So disgusted enough? How many lives saved? Zero.
That is ignoring the UK's complicity of course. That's the difficult thing to deal with.
Glorianny. A quarter of the disgust? Why stop there? How about a billion times more disgusted over any war, any death. Okay? Or a trillion times more? So disgusted enough? How many lives saved? Zero.
Rosie51
Condoning vandalism and criminality because the offender shares your view is the thin end of the wedge. Unless you support all vandalism done in the name of any protest you are being hypocritical.
Well I'd support the suffragette who damaged the Rokeby Venus, although I think it's a much more important and better painting than the one of Lord Balfour.
Of course it won't end the war but if a quarter of the disgust that has been aimed at the one woman who damaged (and did not destroy ) a painting, had been. aimed at the country currently slaughtering thousands of innocent people then perhaps that slaughter would have been stopped.
Or at the very least our government would not have become complicit in what may well turn out to be war crimes. Allowing Israeli military planes to land in the UK and training Israeli military personnel. www.declassifieduk.org/uk-refuses-to-disclose-what-israeli-military-planes-landing-in-britain-have-onboard/#:~:text=The%20UK%20government%20admitted%20last,
That's far more worrying to me than any painting being damaged
Condoning vandalism and criminality because the offender shares your view is the thin end of the wedge. Unless you support all vandalism done in the name of any protest you are being hypocritical.
Anniebach
I am sure Glorianny doesn’t think destroying a painting would stop war.
No I don't think that was the point of her posts either
I am sure Glorianny doesn’t think destroying a painting would stop war.
Aveline
It got them noticed but in a very negative way. It risks painting pro Palestinian protesters as vandalous idiots.
Well obviously some of them are, aren't they. Hope they are quickly found, made to pay for the damage, ha ha, kicked out of Uni, and case heard by someone who is independant of political bias, unlike the judge who let two terrorist sympathisers off the hook.
Glorianny vandalising a painting has done zilch to end the war. I mean if wars were ended by destroying paintings, let’s burn the lot. The grown ups in the room know this won’t happen.
I very doubt the press would claim 3,000 were in attendance
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