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Pro Palestinian supporters destroy painting of Lord Balfour

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GrannyGravy13 Fri 08-Mar-24 16:12:27

This happened today at Trinity College, Cambridge University.

Totally unacceptable and unjustifiable.

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 22:45:21

So how many were arrested ?

Glorianny Sat 09-Mar-24 22:40:47

Anniebach

Freya so frightening, a man can be arrested for speaking the truth, obvious from the first march where the police stood .

He wasn't arrested for speaking anything, He was arrested because there was fighting and de-arrested when his part in it became obvious.

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 22:31:19

The attack on the painting wasn’t in support of Palastine !

nanna8 Sat 09-Mar-24 22:24:33

The trouble is that it distracts people from a very real issue and makes them not sympathetic at all. I think they are basically vandals and I am sure those who are genuinely concerned about lives lost and starvation in Gaza would not support them. They are damaging not just the statues but their whole cause.

flappergirl Sat 09-Mar-24 22:17:28

Lord Balfour supported the concentration camps of the Boer war and the importation of "Chinese indentured labour" to South Africa.

I'm guessing that many people on this thread were horrified at the toppling of Edward Colton's statue (the slave trader who took pride of place in the centre of Bristol). That single act began the first serious conversations around the inequality in the city (as highlighted by the Runnymede report) and the introduction of the One Curriculum in local schools.

Small but essential steps from an act of "vandalism".

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 21:45:38

Freya so frightening, a man can be arrested for speaking the truth, obvious from the first march where the police stood .

Glorianny Sat 09-Mar-24 21:43:02

The man was arrested for assault because there was an affray. He was later de-arrested when the police viewed the film footage. It's a non-story.

Freya5 Sat 09-Mar-24 21:38:53

Anniebach

One arrest shown on the news this evening, a man with a placard stating Hamas are terrorists

Strange isn't it. Yet flying banned terrorist flags are allowed to carry on. This man was speaking the truth, Hamas has been declared terrorists.
Poor chap jailed for printing leaflets, 2 tears.
The police in London are Islamist sympathisers.

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 21:10:01

One arrest shown on the news this evening, a man with a placard stating Hamas are terrorists

paddyann54 Sat 09-Mar-24 21:00:42

Thats your UK for you Urms....over 300 years of English rule and look at the mess we're in..Thatcher didn't help by destroying our industry either.PLEASE dont say we've had devolution for 20 years ....we've had a miniscule amount of power over mainly inconsequential things while WM holds the pursestrings and we have to more or less beg for funding.We have around 8% of the population yet this years Barnet payement NOT GRANT .it comes from our own income This year we're getting close to 3 .5 % of UK income as our "share"
I'd love to see the shower of crooks at WM have to live on 3.5% of the income instead they steal and borrow and are Trillions of pounds in debt .
ANY Scottish voter with half a working brain knows we'd be better off on our own.I DO wonder WHY WM doesn't want us to go?

ronib Sat 09-Mar-24 16:35:11

Glorianny. Wanting effective action, wanting all this fighting to stop on all sides regardless of blame doesn’t mean it will happen any time soon sadly. So far, it’s stalemate. Slashing paintings is of no consequence. Hardly helpful is it?

Urmstongran Sat 09-Mar-24 16:02:21

Well paddyanne according to WHO statistics male life expectancy is lower in Scotland than it is in Gaza! Scottish voters may want to ponder on that for a bit.

Rosie51 Sat 09-Mar-24 15:56:25

Glorianny

One of the reasons the suffragettes chose to stone throw, set fires, let off bombs and damage paintings was because they said men cared more for property than people, I wonder how they would feel to find that 100 years later so do a lot of women.

That's incredibly offensive! Condemning vandalism does not equate to valuing property over people and it's quite disgusting of you to imply otherwise. I don't think there is one single woman on these forums that doesn't find the loss of the lives in the middle east and elsewhere tragic and distressing.
If ripping that painting to shreds would actually save lives I'd be there helping as I'm sure would others, but it won't. It's just someone feeding their ego.

Louella12 Sat 09-Mar-24 15:45:12

Working class ( most) men didn't have the vote either.

Nobody ever talks about that

Glorianny Sat 09-Mar-24 15:38:51

One of the reasons the suffragettes chose to stone throw, set fires, let off bombs and damage paintings was because they said men cared more for property than people, I wonder how they would feel to find that 100 years later so do a lot of women.

Glorianny Sat 09-Mar-24 15:08:16

ronib

*Glorianny*. A quarter of the disgust? Why stop there? How about a billion times more disgusted over any war, any death. Okay? Or a trillion times more? So disgusted enough? How many lives saved? Zero.

That is ignoring the UK's complicity of course. That's the difficult thing to deal with.

ronib Sat 09-Mar-24 14:57:45

Glorianny. A quarter of the disgust? Why stop there? How about a billion times more disgusted over any war, any death. Okay? Or a trillion times more? So disgusted enough? How many lives saved? Zero.

Glorianny Sat 09-Mar-24 14:54:41

Rosie51

Condoning vandalism and criminality because the offender shares your view is the thin end of the wedge. Unless you support all vandalism done in the name of any protest you are being hypocritical.

Well I'd support the suffragette who damaged the Rokeby Venus, although I think it's a much more important and better painting than the one of Lord Balfour.

Glorianny Sat 09-Mar-24 14:52:31

Of course it won't end the war but if a quarter of the disgust that has been aimed at the one woman who damaged (and did not destroy ) a painting, had been. aimed at the country currently slaughtering thousands of innocent people then perhaps that slaughter would have been stopped.
Or at the very least our government would not have become complicit in what may well turn out to be war crimes. Allowing Israeli military planes to land in the UK and training Israeli military personnel. www.declassifieduk.org/uk-refuses-to-disclose-what-israeli-military-planes-landing-in-britain-have-onboard/#:~:text=The%20UK%20government%20admitted%20last,
That's far more worrying to me than any painting being damaged

Rosie51 Sat 09-Mar-24 14:52:05

Condoning vandalism and criminality because the offender shares your view is the thin end of the wedge. Unless you support all vandalism done in the name of any protest you are being hypocritical.

pascal30 Sat 09-Mar-24 14:41:17

Anniebach

I am sure Glorianny doesn’t think destroying a painting would stop war.

No I don't think that was the point of her posts either

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 14:37:38

I am sure Glorianny doesn’t think destroying a painting would stop war.

Freya5 Sat 09-Mar-24 14:36:29

Aveline

It got them noticed but in a very negative way. It risks painting pro Palestinian protesters as vandalous idiots.

Well obviously some of them are, aren't they. Hope they are quickly found, made to pay for the damage, ha ha, kicked out of Uni, and case heard by someone who is independant of political bias, unlike the judge who let two terrorist sympathisers off the hook.

ronib Sat 09-Mar-24 14:33:09

Glorianny vandalising a painting has done zilch to end the war. I mean if wars were ended by destroying paintings, let’s burn the lot. The grown ups in the room know this won’t happen.

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 14:15:03

I very doubt the press would claim 3,000 were in attendance