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Sunaks wifes company gets 35 BILLION IT contract for NHS

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paddyann54 Sat 09-Mar-24 22:19:02

Infosys in the money...again.Didn't her company go under after getting Covid cash? WHY is this allowed ?

OldFrill Mon 11-Mar-24 00:05:47

Try googling your Gransnet username - your posts will come up but not always in the top few results.

OldFrill Mon 11-Mar-24 00:07:54

Your "username Gransnet" should get best results

maddyone Mon 11-Mar-24 00:10:00

Oh my Lord, I don’t think I want to.
Whatever have I said in the years I’ve been on Gransnet?

TinSoldier Mon 11-Mar-24 00:23:45

Old Frill and maddyone.

I reported this thread when it first appeared on Saturday evening as it is factually inaccurate. The Gransnet terms of use say:

This Web site and its contents are copyright Gransnet. All rights reserved. Reproduction of all or any substantial part of the contents in any form is prohibited.

We rely on you to present us with User Content that contains accurate and factual material.

It should be deleted. I have reported it again.

OldFrill Mon 11-Mar-24 00:33:20

TinSoldier

Old Frill and maddyone.

I reported this thread when it first appeared on Saturday evening as it is factually inaccurate. The Gransnet terms of use say:

This Web site and its contents are copyright Gransnet. All rights reserved. Reproduction of all or any substantial part of the contents in any form is prohibited.

We rely on you to present us with User Content that contains accurate and factual material.

It should be deleted. I have reported it again.

Well done.
HQ must be away for the weekend (calling it HQ cracks me up) 😀

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 11-Mar-24 09:27:51

I have also reported the thread again. The OP’s allegations are wholly inaccurate and libellous.

MaizieD Mon 11-Mar-24 09:51:49

Germanshepherdsmum

I have also reported the thread again. The OP’s allegations are wholly inaccurate and libellous.

Inaccurate, yes. But lots of threads contain inaccuracies. They aren't reported and removed.

Where is the libel?

Katie59 Mon 11-Mar-24 11:45:17

The wider publication is not the opinion or policy of GN it is the opinion or the original poster, you see these in the media all the time, the media including GN has a disclaimer saying just that.

As I said in a previous post we should not make personal attacks or allegations just because we hide behind a user name.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 11-Mar-24 11:49:34

Maizie, false statements have been made which are damaging to the reputations of the company, Mrs Sunak and her family and those who deal with the awarding of NHS IT contracts.

Rosie51 Mon 11-Mar-24 11:57:58

paddyann still hasn't given us a link to the news site she used. It would be good to know which one is so inaccurate and untrustworthy, so as to avoid it in the future.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 11-Mar-24 12:06:43

The only ‘evidence’ we have seen was from another poster - a screenshot of a fb post by some unknown person. The OP said she read about it on a ‘news site’ - that’s what happens when people rely on social media for their ‘news’. And posters here have just swallowed it hook, line and sinker and made their own unpleasant comments. How can anyone accept completely unsubstantiated posts as the truth? It’s obvious that there’s no truth in the story of the contract or the allegations about Mrs Sunak and her family’s ownership of the company.

Katie59 Mon 11-Mar-24 13:00:11

Here is the correct plan for NHS IT I hope the OP that grossly a
exagarated the amount will apologize

www.digitalhealth.net/2024/03/spring-budget-includes-3-4billion-extra-investment-in-nhs-digitisation/

The same information is on the FT platform but behind a paywall

Visgir1 Mon 11-Mar-24 13:13:55

I posted that is was 3.4b yesterday. I think if this is for the whole of the UK, it's not expensive.
But if it was reported on FB of course it's true!

OldFrill Mon 11-Mar-24 13:37:27

Visgir1

I posted that is was 3.4b yesterday. I think if this is for the whole of the UK, it's not expensive.
But if it was reported on FB of course it's true!

The opposite is being claimed, as there is only one post, it's bogus. Although The National may have posted then retracted the claim.

SueDonim Mon 11-Mar-24 14:44:49

The OP has posted click bait, probably to draw attention away from other news stories, cause a smoke screen.

Callistemon21 Mon 11-Mar-24 15:09:31

Grantanow

Err, could we just stick to facts?

This is Gransnet Grantanow 😂

Callistemon21 Mon 11-Mar-24 15:12:48

Hope all is well now with your DIL, paddyann

Callistemon21 Mon 11-Mar-24 15:16:58

Whatever the IT contact and whoever gets it:
It was stated in the Budget that the investment in IT would be £3.4 billion which would, it was hoped, deliver £35 billion in savings through more efficient systems.

Callistemon21 Mon 11-Mar-24 15:18:09

Visgir1

I posted that is was 3.4b yesterday. I think if this is for the whole of the UK, it's not expensive.
But if it was reported on FB of course it's true!

Apologies to repeat what you said Visgirl (worth repeating though!)

MaizieD Mon 11-Mar-24 15:33:11

Callistemon21

Whatever the IT contact and whoever gets it:
It was stated in the Budget that the investment in IT would be £3.4 billion which would, it was hoped, deliver £35 billion in savings through more efficient systems.

What I'd like to know is, why aren't all the RW media grilling the tories about how they are going to pay for it? If Labour had announced such a massive spend based on the vague prospect of it saving more than it cost.

And also pointing out that many of our much heralded proposed new IT systems have, over the years, ended in disarray.

MaizieD Mon 11-Mar-24 15:36:08

Forgot to finish the sentence ☹️

If Labour had announced such a massive spend based on the vague prospect of it saving more than it cost, the media wouldn't have let it pass for a minute...

Callistemon21 Mon 11-Mar-24 15:43:25

I'm not disputing any of that.

Just corrected the erroneous and misleading heading.

Even now there is no joined up efficient IT system for the NHS after all that has been spent by various governments over many years.

MaizieD Mon 11-Mar-24 16:02:34

Callistemon21

I'm not disputing any of that.

Just corrected the erroneous and misleading heading.

Even now there is no joined up efficient IT system for the NHS after all that has been spent by various governments over many years.

I don't know about pre 2010, but since then the government hasn't put enough money into the NHS to be able to completely overhaul and update its IT systems.

That's what shrinking the state was all about... In real terms, until fairly recently, they've kept it short of what it needed; claiming that would make it more efficient. Like you can really achieve efficiency gains with outdated and non networked systems.

Callistemon21 Mon 11-Mar-24 16:28:42

Of course, Blair did so well to improve the NHS IT system

If there were an award for the world's most mismanaged national health project, England's National Programme for IT in the NHS would be a strong contender, if not outright winner. Started in 2002, Tony Blair's brainchild has, like the computer in 2001: A Space Odyssey, gone badly wrong.
The main aim of the project was to create a fully integrated centralised electronic care records system to improve services and patient care by 2007. The budget for the undertaking was a substantial £11·4 billion. 9 years on, the Department of Health has spent £6·4 billion on the project so far, failed to meet its initial deadline, and has had to abandon the central goal of the project because it is unable to deliver a universal system.

www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(11)61275-0/fulltext
13/8/2011

If the proposed one is efficient and works well, at £3.4 billion it will be a snip!

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 11-Mar-24 16:32:21

Callistemon21

I'm not disputing any of that.

Just corrected the erroneous and misleading heading.

Even now there is no joined up efficient IT system for the NHS after all that has been spent by various governments over many years.

Indeed, as I found out at the weekend and was trying to explain to my husband …