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Largest ever Tory donor’s appalling remarks.

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Nandalot Mon 11-Mar-24 15:53:42

Frank Hester, who has paid two lots of £5 million pounds into the Tory coffers has made some really appalling remarks about Diane Abbott. I cannot bear to repeat them but you can read about them here,
www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/11/biggest-tory-donor-looking-diane-abbott-hate-all-black-women
He has made his fortune out of tech including lucrative contracts with the NHS.
I wonder if the Tories will now return his money?

MaizieD Wed 13-Mar-24 10:38:18

GrannyGravy13

Freya5

Katie59

I’m not at all surprised the words were said, it is typical of the attitude of Tory party members.

A few years ago I was asked to help out waitressing at a local Conservative Association dinner, their attitude to the staff was appalling we were treated like skivvies. Overhearing some of their conversations racism, sexism was rife, the lower classes were of no consequence, they were of course personal conversations, but easy to overhear.

The caterer could not find staff for the event the following year.

Typical, really. So you're calling every Tory member out as a racist. Your one experience, because you say so doesn't make it true.
Think what you have said is appalling.

A fair few of my family are Conservative Party Members.

I find Katie59’s post offensive.

Having been to many Conservative do’s/dinners over the years I do not recognise the situation she describes.

I think the operative word in Katie59's post is 'some'.

She didn't say 'all' the attendees were racist and sexist.

I realise that our right wingers might be feeling rather beleaguered at the moment, but it helps to read what is actually written...

Callistemon21 Wed 13-Mar-24 10:36:38

petra

Dianne Abbot thinks that Jews don’t suffer racism but suffer prejudice the same as redheads 🤦🏼‍♀️
You couldn’t make it up, could you.

Yes, Diane was wrong and should not have said that. It displayed ignorance.

However, what Anderson said was on another level.

Callistemon21 Wed 13-Mar-24 10:35:04

GrannyGravy13

Callistemon21

GrannyGravy13

Racism is wrong.

Tarring all Conservatives with the same brush is wrong.

Two wrongs will never make a right.

Both remarks are prejudiced.

Why are my remarks prejudiced?

In my opinion it is rather lazy to lump all Conservative views together as if they have one ^hive mind^

Sorry, I worded that badly! Apologies.

Both things are wrong!!

GrannyGravy13 Wed 13-Mar-24 10:34:31

I agree petra we first met David Ames nearly 40 years ago (in his previous constituency) a decent man, fantastic sense of humour.

petra Wed 13-Mar-24 10:28:50

Katie59
It’s a pity you didn’t meet David Amess before he was murdered.
He might have made you think differently about all conservatives

petra Wed 13-Mar-24 10:25:03

Dianne Abbot thinks that Jews don’t suffer racism but suffer prejudice the same as redheads 🤦🏼‍♀️
You couldn’t make it up, could you.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 13-Mar-24 10:19:55

Callistemon21

GrannyGravy13

Racism is wrong.

Tarring all Conservatives with the same brush is wrong.

Two wrongs will never make a right.

Both remarks are prejudiced.

Why are my remarks prejudiced?

In my opinion it is rather lazy to lump all Conservative views together as if they have one hive mind

GrannyGravy13 Wed 13-Mar-24 10:17:57

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Callistemon21 Wed 13-Mar-24 10:13:25

GrannyGravy13

Racism is wrong.

Tarring all Conservatives with the same brush is wrong.

Two wrongs will never make a right.

Both remarks are prejudiced.

LizzieDrip Wed 13-Mar-24 10:12:47

Whitewavemark2 👏👏👏🤣🤣🤣

Katie59 Wed 13-Mar-24 10:12:39

We found it offensive waitressing, the attitudes of Tory MPs reflects the members in general, not all have right wing views but we know a good half of them do. Regularly we have had them drop the PC front and step out of line just like Hester

GrannyGravy13 Wed 13-Mar-24 10:11:59

Racism is wrong.

Tarring all Conservatives with the same brush is wrong.

Two wrongs will never make a right.

Iam64 Wed 13-Mar-24 10:11:30

Whitewave - thank goodness for the buck up reminder 🤣😂🌞

Whitewavemark2 Wed 13-Mar-24 10:09:53

Good Lord everyone - you must surely realise that talking in a racist language doesn’t mean that you are racist - do buck up everyone!

And in any case we get to keep the money and hope there will be more where that came from. Ker-ching!

GrannyGravy13 Wed 13-Mar-24 09:58:03

Freya5

Katie59

I’m not at all surprised the words were said, it is typical of the attitude of Tory party members.

A few years ago I was asked to help out waitressing at a local Conservative Association dinner, their attitude to the staff was appalling we were treated like skivvies. Overhearing some of their conversations racism, sexism was rife, the lower classes were of no consequence, they were of course personal conversations, but easy to overhear.

The caterer could not find staff for the event the following year.

Typical, really. So you're calling every Tory member out as a racist. Your one experience, because you say so doesn't make it true.
Think what you have said is appalling.

A fair few of my family are Conservative Party Members.

I find Katie59’s post offensive.

Having been to many Conservative do’s/dinners over the years I do not recognise the situation she describes.

Freya5 Wed 13-Mar-24 09:52:58

Katie59

I’m not at all surprised the words were said, it is typical of the attitude of Tory party members.

A few years ago I was asked to help out waitressing at a local Conservative Association dinner, their attitude to the staff was appalling we were treated like skivvies. Overhearing some of their conversations racism, sexism was rife, the lower classes were of no consequence, they were of course personal conversations, but easy to overhear.

The caterer could not find staff for the event the following year.

Typical, really. So you're calling every Tory member out as a racist. Your one experience, because you say so doesn't make it true.
Think what you have said is appalling.

Iam64 Wed 13-Mar-24 09:40:37

LizzieDrip

^British obsession with racism^

I disagree that there is a ‘British obsession’ with racism - rather an acknowledgment that it exists and a recognition of the damage it causes to individuals and groups. There are several reputable reports about racism in Australia, and the unwillingness to talk about it, preferring to believe it doesn’t exist (in Australia) - when it clearly does. In short, British society is better at calling it out! (I can add links to articles / reports if you wish)

Thanks LizzieDrip

LizzieDrip Wed 13-Mar-24 09:39:38

British obsession with racism

I disagree that there is a ‘British obsession’ with racism - rather an acknowledgment that it exists and a recognition of the damage it causes to individuals and groups. There are several reputable reports about racism in Australia, and the unwillingness to talk about it, preferring to believe it doesn’t exist (in Australia) - when it clearly does. In short, British society is better at calling it out! (I can add links to articles / reports if you wish)

Iam64 Wed 13-Mar-24 09:28:35

I wonder if Sunak approved that statement

Casdon Wed 13-Mar-24 09:27:31

I just heard on the news that it’s been confirmed by a minister that further donations from this man would be accepted.
news.sky.com/story/tory-donor-not-racist-despite-alleged-diane-abbott-remarks-claims-minister-13093755

Iam64 Wed 13-Mar-24 09:24:56

People are getting on with life. That includes calling out racism misogyny and suggestions a black female mp should be shot

nanna8 Wed 13-Mar-24 09:10:20

British obsession with racism. From both sides. Why can’t people just live with each other in a normal way, why does race even enter into anything these days? Samantha Kerr is being accused of racism against a white policeman. For goodness sake, why do people look for offence? Just get on with life.

growstuff Wed 13-Mar-24 06:53:18

If you order repeat prescriptions online or have access to online test results and/or patient records, the chances are that you use System Online, which is how Hester made his money.

I'd love to have an alternative, but there isn't any choice.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 13-Mar-24 06:44:03

Abbot’s health has been bad for a long time, and it has taken its toll.

When she first became an MP she was as bright as a button, intelligent, quick witted and more than a match for most. But she is a shadow of her former self now I think.

Lovetopaint037 Wed 13-Mar-24 06:20:18

Disgusting man. Also how can it be said that his words were not racist! The excuses were beyond pathetic. Let these extremist right wingers clear off and join whatever low life political party they really belong to. Poor Diane Abbot has been subjected to this with no thought that she has apparently suffered some Ill health of late.