The new Rwanda Plan

Freya5

If they've claimed asylum, then been refused,what then. They have no right to be here, often their own countries won't take them back, what is left,the chance of a new start in Rwanda, or living illegally under the radar, being abused and almost certainly at daily risk of being imprisoned for immigration offences.
Locally we have had several raids finding illegal immigrants working. Asian restaurants.

The Rwanda plan isn't about people who have been refused asylum. It's for people whose claims haven't even been considered. The claims will be processed in Rwanda and they will then be given asylum in Rwanda with no option to return to the UK.

I have always voted Conservative in GE, I am not in favour of the Rwanda Plan

Yvette Cooper said on Sky News that Rwanda will not be part of a Labour immigration plan.

I feel reasonably confident that this time next year - this shameful period will be behind us, and Rwanda will be just a one nightmare amongst so many attempts by the Tories to divide and set our society against each other.

Five have lost their lives this morning in French waters trying to teach the U.K.

The people smugglers have to be stopped.

A Government minister doing the rounds this morning reiterated that any Afghan nationals who worked for/with the U.K. armed forces will not be sent to Rwanda, they will be settled here.

If they've claimed asylum, then been refused,what then. They have no right to be here, often their own countries won't take them back, what is left,the chance of a new start in Rwanda, or living illegally under the radar, being abused and almost certainly at daily risk of being imprisoned for immigration offences.
Locally we have had several raids finding illegal immigrants working. Asian restaurants.

The government 's approach to immigration has been shambolic and utterly disgraceful. I used to think we were a decent humane society but we're not. Fgs if people can't claim asylum unless they are on British soil we are making them take unsafe routes.

Also, did anyone see the news item that pointed out the other day that many people whose asylum claims were not granted still remained here years later because there was nothing in place to return them to their original country.

So what is happening about those poor people who worked for us in Afghanistan? Are they now going to be sent to Rwanda? I can’t believe that Andrew Mitchell ( who I thought was one of the few remaining decent Conservative MP’s) is now saying that Rwanda is safer than London

A despicable act from a despicable and utterly shameless government.

I can hardly believe that the Rwanda Plan is going to happen[with amendments from the original I think].

Without even considering how dreadful the corrupt Conservatives have been over the last nine years, the Rwanda plan would, on its own, make any British citizen with a sense of fairness and decency, vote for anyone except the Conservatives.

At the general election, as we still have to vote under the undemocratic FPTP voting system, please identify the candidate in your constituency best placed to defeat the Conservatives - Liberal Democrat, Labour or Green, and vote for that candidate.

We simply cannot afford four or five more years of gross incopetence, chaos and corruption.

Lee Anderson is going by way of protest re the England Football Strip.

Win win!

The Rwanda scheme is a terrible waste of money to achieve very little except pandering to Tory right wing voters who might defect to Reform. Cleverly's recent trip to Rwanda cost £156,000 by private jet. Could have been better spent.

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Many of the cross benchers are very valuable as they often are appointed for their work in the community on various issues not through a political party and won't vote on a party basis.
Cleverly is just bitter about it.

MayBee70

Can anyone explain to me why James Cleverly said on National tv today that it was the Labour Lords that were blocking the Rwanda bill given that there are for more Conservative Lords than Labour, even taking into account the LibDem Lords. Why are politicians allowed to make such statements with no one calling them out? ( mind you, perhaps the Conservative Lords are all on their yachts and not in Westminster ?)….

There are lots of cross benchers, Labour plus them could outvote the Tories - which surely is right, rather than any one party dominating the Lords. Cleverly isn’t very though, he’s known for getting things wrong.

If the threat of dying either by drowning or freezing in the channel isn’t a deterrent I very much doubt that Rwanda will be?

It’s not really about saving tax payers money.
It’s a huge problem for many European countries and they’re all casting around for deterrents.
I’d say give the Rwanda scheme a chance, it may take some time but eventually should stop the boat crossings.They surely would decide to apply for asylum in France rather than risk the crossing and the likelihood of being sent to live in an African country.

Can anyone explain to me why James Cleverly said on National tv today that it was the Labour Lords that were blocking the Rwanda bill given that there are for more Conservative Lords than Labour, even taking into account the LibDem Lords. Why are politicians allowed to make such statements with no one calling them out? ( mind you, perhaps the Conservative Lords are all on their yachts and not in Westminster ?)….

The effort should be concentrated now on more speedy processing.

In response to a question from Labour - the government had said that so far the Rwanda scheme has cost £500 million and 150 people are expected to be transported.

Not convinced that this government understands the value of tax payers money.

Brava Primrose! Sorted ! "they" would rather doss about here in 5 star hotels than get on a plane and work.

What a load of old nosense.

Annierob

It will cost thousands to put people on a plane to Rwanda. Our money!
If you want to save on asylum seekers’ costs , let them stay with friends and family, give them temporary work visas so they pay their own rent. Ridiculous to bundle them in hotels.
Sooner the incompetent Conservative Party is out of power, the better. We need adults in charge managing the country efficiently. Honestly, it makes me fume. Surely better to treat damaged people better than bundling them off to Africia!!!!

They are sending them to Rwanda for better prospects.
My friend is from Tanzania which is next to Rwanda and she says it is a beautiful country. Quite mountainous, green and lush. People pay to go there on holiday now!

I watched a top bod from Rwanda on TV and he said if people are prepared to work then they can make a very good life for themselves in Rwanda. Whatever work they do will be welcomed over there.

Maybe the clue is there “if they want to work” …… perhaps they would rather stay in the UK and live off benefits.

Who on earth whips out a mobile phone? Is it some sort of strange throw back to the days of James Bond?

I expect most people have them in a pocket, especially if you are thousands of miles away from friends and family and en toute to Rwanda. People, yes people.

The hatred is stunning.