Conscription -should UK initiate?

Sorry I wasn't very clear earlier in my post with FR Callistemon, I was referring to the 1990s in France. Military conscription in France was still ongoing then because I remember reading about Macron being the first president to have just avoided it as he wasn't 18 until late 1990s. It was always a requirement of French citizenship that they had to do military service. I wonder why Macron is so keen to re-introduce in the country now it when he himself didn't do it?
M0nica is right that the training would be very different now, but there could still be an emphasis on discipline and service.

But I digress from the OP!

Luckygirl3

I don't think so ....... they could get tied up in a war to which they object on moral grounds.

It seems somewhat pitiful and defeatist to try and solve the education and employment problems with compulsory killing training - surely we can do better than that.

All of this. Whole heartedly all of this

Joseann

Sorry I wasn't very clear earlier in my post with FR Callistemon, I was referring to the 1990s in France. Military conscription in France was still ongoing then because I remember reading about Macron being the first president to have just avoided it as he wasn't 18 until late 1990s. It was always a requirement of French citizenship that they had to do military service. I wonder why Macron is so keen to re-introduce in the country now it when he himself didn't do it?
M0nica is right that the training would be very different now, but there could still be an emphasis on discipline and service.

I wondered what the (FR) was!

I thought it was an abbreviation I hadn't heard of.

Joseann It is not a question of training being different, but wth a stripped down to the bones armed service as we have in the UK. Army personnel do not have the time to just introduce concepts of 'discipline and service' to otherwise useless members of the service. Their job is to train the few new soldiers we have high technical skills, warcraft, how to use modern weapons - and avoid them. How to deal with natural catatstrophes in countires they are unfamiliar with and act as peace makers among warring communities.

There is now selective and gender neutral conscription in Sweden. What is also noticeable is the awareness among the general population and the discussions taking place, i.e. how can people prepare for crisis. The list includes: enough tinned/dried food, water, ready cash, medicines, batteries needed when there is no electricity etc. Also people must know where their nearest shelter is.
What advice are people in the UK given? I don't hear any and it worries me.

Greta

There is now selective and gender neutral conscription in Sweden. What is also noticeable is the awareness among the general population and the discussions taking place, i.e. how can people prepare for crisis. The list includes: enough tinned/dried food, water, ready cash, medicines, batteries needed when there is no electricity etc. Also people must know where their nearest shelter is.
What advice are people in the UK given? I don't hear any and it worries me.

I am not worried because I wouldn't want to survive in those circumstances.

Greta

There is now selective and gender neutral conscription in Sweden. What is also noticeable is the awareness among the general population and the discussions taking place, i.e. how can people prepare for crisis. The list includes: enough tinned/dried food, water, ready cash, medicines, batteries needed when there is no electricity etc. Also people must know where their nearest shelter is.
What advice are people in the UK given? I don't hear any and it worries me.

I don't know Greta but I don't believe there ard any plans or any foresight whatsoever.

Certainly years ago, in the 1960s, there were plans in place but perhaps most of the general public weren't aware of them.

There will be a good many unemployed former Tory MPs in due course...

Not unless we are directly in the line of fire. Why would we, during a period when the UK is being ruled by flagrant flouters of all the accepted rules of civilised existence, such as honesty?

Never happening. This isn't the 1940's where not 'doing your bit' was frowned upon. The UK would be sending millions to prison for refusing unlike the small proportion during WW2.

Add in the various excuses for not conscribing...mental health, IBS, the court cases from all and sundry, human rights not to go blah blah blah.

It will not happen.

No. Teach people that some lives are more important than others? Inhibit the process of free thought, imagination and independence? Pigeon hole youth force ideals on them? No. Never.

Definitely not. I wouldn't want my sons or grandson recruited.

I'd have to go with my grandson to make sure he got up in the mornings!!

It's a vocation, not a job.

I take it you have no teenage grandchildren to be packed off to their deaths?

Absolutely not! Why should my kids die in a Globalist War for a Government who cares nothing for them or this Country, in Ukraine one of the most corrupt Countries in the world??

I believe it would be the way forward give the youth of today a purpose and instil some respect into them.

I think the OP has conflated two ideas. One is bringing back conscription. The other is the the apparently large number of unemployed young people. I don't think the NATO chap was suggesting killing both birds with one stone.

As has been said, I hope everyone is including their own young family members as those needing to be taught respect/discipline and so on

There is no point in forcing people into the armed forces against their will in peacetime. We need people who are committed to serving their country and who will accept orders from those in authority.

Couldn’t afford it.

By all means let's have conscription . . . for anyone under 90 who's fit, for their age, and 'unemployed.
One month would do. I would quite like a posting in southern Spain, or France.

Under no circumstances. I am in favour of something like a trained Home Guard to which would need training. Also, anybody claiming benefits and not working should need to work in some positive social capacity, and be paid minimum rate for it. A properly managed service with trained leaders, training for the participants, funding etc. Only exceptions for mothers raising children and family, the disabled, carers, etc.

No

No way. Why should these warmongering ‘elites’ (hate that word) have the right to commit sons, brothers, husbands as cannon fodder with a high risk of being killed or injured whilst they sit, protected in their ivory towers. War is a way of making billions of $$$$$$ for the few.