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Liz Truss on Trump

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Bea65 Tue 16-Apr-24 06:14:20

Talk Tv reported that Liz Truss has said that the World was safer when Donald Trump was President.. - am very world weary at the moment shock

Oreo Tue 16-Apr-24 17:18:26

Iam64

She’s a strange one that’s for sure

She must have a very thick skin as well as some weird policy ideas.

silverlining48 Tue 16-Apr-24 17:13:46

I have needed a laugh lately, and she has given me a good one.
Silly woman.

Happygirl79 Tue 16-Apr-24 16:56:49

They have something in common. She is by far the worst PM we have encountered and Trump is the worst president America has encountered

MaizieD Tue 16-Apr-24 16:49:29

I still don't quite understand what she is determined to save the West from....

From Rifkind's piece:

complaining pricelessly that “part of the problem we faced was a distinct shortage of expert voices supporting our agenda”.

I can understand why she feels sore on this point. After all there was a distinct shortage of expert economists supporting the Leave campaign but it didn't stop us getting Brexit...

eddiecat78 Tue 16-Apr-24 16:44:42

She's a pillock

Dinahmo Tue 16-Apr-24 16:38:10

Gabby Hinsliff today in the Guardian on the same subject.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/16/liz-truss-save-the-west-delusions

How she could have so much self belief defeats me.

Siope Tue 16-Apr-24 14:18:11

Hugo Rifkind is hilarious about her in today’s Times, noting how she blames ‘the deep state’ for everything, whilst simultaneously blaming the lack of state depth and capacity for everything

He concludes
Other PMs have managed to implement their ideas, so why couldn’t she? The notion that they might simply have been unworkable doesn’t seem to occur to her. It must be a conspiracy. It must be obstruction. Somebody must be in the way.

Truss is not the first politician to think like this. If we’re lucky, in fact, she may be one of the last, because Sunak for all his flaws is something quite different. Perhaps Truss is best understood as the logical endpoint of the mindset that has dominated Conservative politics since the Brexit referendum; the one that cries “bias!” and “foul!” when complex and messy reality simply fails to obey a political mandate.

Truss all but says exactly this herself, complaining pricelessly that “part of the problem we faced was a distinct shortage of expert voices supporting our agenda”. As if in a fairer world, expertise itself would be allocated equally across the political spectrum. With strict quotas even for the mad.

As with all deep state conspiracists, perhaps what Truss truly mourns is the lack of one. Isolated, incoherent and out of her depth, she’d have benefited no end from the ability to have newspaper editors sacked, or dissident economists silenced, or chemists and hairdressers dragged to Downing Street on pain of death. Instead, it was just her and her friend Kwasi, somehow caught short at the failure of other people to lift them up, achieve the impossible and solve all the problems they couldn’t solve themselves.

Less a deep state, then. More a government as shallow as a puddle.

vegansrock Tue 16-Apr-24 14:06:23

If you can bear to watch any of her interviews, she always sounds a bit drunk to,me, and lots of hand waving.,

Iam64 Tue 16-Apr-24 12:57:35

In fact she’s similar to Trump - ridiculous level of self belief

Lollin Tue 16-Apr-24 12:33:52

I’m truly baffled chocolatelovingvegan and would love to be fly in a bookshop to see who buys her book.

Urmstongran Tue 16-Apr-24 12:33:37

Mind you I agree with her on something.
The OBR is less than useless. It gets just about every forecast wrong.
‘Modelling’ (not in the sartorial sense) is guesswork at best. Just look at the mess and anxiety Niall Ferguson created amongst others.
Might as well try the game of pinning a tail on a donkey. At least they’d be on the right page.

Chocolatelovinggran Tue 16-Apr-24 12:23:41

Just when you thought that things couldn't get any worse for Trump, he's endorsed by Liz Truss...
As an aside, perhaps we could start separate discussion- to whom we would give a copy of her book for their birthday.

Dickens Tue 16-Apr-24 12:06:08

winterwhite

Much dislike her blaming of everyone else, esp the civil service. Very dangerous. Odd the way she characterises; everything and everyone opposed to her as ‘left’, meaningless.

Odd the way she characterises; everything and everyone opposed to her as ‘left’, meaningless.

Yes, it's a well-worn tactic though.

But shows a distinct lack of comprehension or a devious surfeit of cunning.

To assume that all on the Left think or speak with one voice avoids having to acknowledge that some in your own party, think you are actually quite dotty.

When she holds forth, she always reminds me of an over-enthusiastic 6th former who's been sitting up late at night discussing 'politics' with her mates.

youtu.be/pxkBdcWfUfc

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Apr-24 12:00:06

I certainly won’t. She brought our economy (and her party) to its knees.

Urmstongran Tue 16-Apr-24 11:45:22

She’s a guest in Farage tonight at 7pm.
GBNews.
I shall watch it - probably between my fingers. 🤔

MayBee70 Tue 16-Apr-24 11:42:08

She is deranged. I don’t know how she can show her face anywhere after what she has done to this country. And to think she will still be showing up for years to come at all the events that ex PM’s attend ( along with Johnson).

Cossy Tue 16-Apr-24 11:41:03

IMO she has totally lost the plot!

Oldbat1 Tue 16-Apr-24 11:39:52

The woman has no shame!

silverlining48 Tue 16-Apr-24 11:26:47

Not only does she want to get rid of the governor of the Bank of England but also the United Nations. Who does she think she is?

MayBee70 Tue 16-Apr-24 10:45:01

I think she’s got a point there though. I’ve mentioned before that I had a friend who both drove a car and ride a bike so erratically that he never had an accident because other road users kept well away from him. And Trumps presidency was the same because no one knew if he was likely to press the nuclear button either deliberately or accidentally.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Apr-24 10:43:23

Penny Mordaunt would have been a good choice I think. Lord knows what those who voted for Truss were thinking of.

Aveline Tue 16-Apr-24 10:40:16

I remember being stunned at her being chosen ahead of Penny Mordaunt. I thought the men in grey suits must have had some sort of agenda.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Apr-24 09:48:47

I remember the discussion here about the leadership contest. One of our number was going to vote for Truss …

Sarnia Tue 16-Apr-24 09:44:20

It beggars belief that she was even on the shortlist for PM, let alone elected. It doesn't surprise me to hear her opinion on Trump. It's the sort of mindset she has. A nothing politician.

Iam64 Tue 16-Apr-24 09:43:57

My mind just went to Angela Raynor in comparison with Truss 😂😂😂