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Another Tired Kicking For The Sick And Disabled By Rishi

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Iam64 Sat 20-Apr-24 09:08:01

Nanatoone - teachers arentvflakes, it’s an increasingly stressful job. No offence meant. It management and culture contribute to sickness absence

Freya - I know you’re vote won’t assist mine but please vote

Nanatoone Sat 20-Apr-24 09:06:34

Touched a few nerves today. My daughter goes to work through thick and thin. Last week she was very unwell and went in every day, including to cover for the migraine sufferer (my daughter, like me suffers from migraine) and to cover the six times now Covid sufferer, who works two days a week, but is more often off than in. I do not disparage genuinely sick people but seriously, get off your soap box and recognise how easy it is to avoid work and get paid. The impact on the rest of the staff is appalling. Please try to recognise that not all sickness is genuine.

Urmstongran Sat 20-Apr-24 09:03:18

Freya please vote.
Even if you write on the ballot paper ‘none of the above’.
It sends the message that you could be bothered but are disillusioned.

Marydoll Sat 20-Apr-24 09:00:59

Nanatoone, I was off for a year from my teaching job, due to multiple.e comorbidities.
My HT got in THREE supply teachers to cover my job.

I can assure you that the L.A and DWP are very robust in their practices. I had a number of medicals and interviews, because I had eventually run of out of pay. No-one accused me of malingering or being a flake.

The clinicians, who examined me were horrified at the number of hours I was working and agreed my workload had contributed to my failing health.

I had to stop working at 59, no state pension and two young for my teacher's pension.
I certainly wanted to keep working.

Thank goodness, your daughter wasn't one of my colleagues, who were so supportive.

Coronation Sat 20-Apr-24 08:55:49

Some sick people are ill as they are waiting for operations, long covid etc.

Some sick employees are paid statutory sick pay and you can't survive on that. There are many people forcing themselves into work and not helping their recovery so having relapses.

Marydoll Sat 20-Apr-24 08:51:32

Flappergirl, I felt the same as you, when I read the comment about not voting.
Women have fought so hard to get the vote.
If everyone did the same, what a even bigger mess we would be in.

I struggle to get to our polling station, with no parking nearby and at the top of a steep hill.
Consequently, I have arranged to vote permanently by post.

Cossy Sat 20-Apr-24 08:50:53

Nanatoone

One thing I do know for sure. My daughter is a senior teacher and she has so many staff on the sick. One hasn’t been in in over a year and others are always off with “Covid” a “migraine” and other unidentifiable stuff. Sick days are a real problem and so many people are flakes. The impact on the rest of the staff and the children is dreadful. I don’t know if this has anything whatsoever to do with what Rishi said, but it’s high on my agenda.

“On the sick”? It’s a long time since I’ve heard that expression!

If you’ve ever had a bad dose of Covid or a migraine you might understand how debilitating these conditions are, as for some one being off for a year, she’s clearly very unwell. Schools have pretty robust HR processes now and Occ Health.

Teaching is an utter minefield now, especially in Secondary schools, just because your daughter copes and manages aspects of her physical and mental health well doesn’t mean others can.

I do hope she is never in the same position as her colleagues!

flappergirl Sat 20-Apr-24 08:46:48

Freya5

vegansrock

He’s only saying all this as an attempt to get votes from the UKIP / Reform voters who love all the right wing rhetoric. He won’t be in any position to enact it if they lose the GE ( hopefully).

Oh dear, so they're not decent people in your estimation then. You have no idea how they will vote. I for one won't be, neither will I be voting Labour. In fact I've decided not to vote at all. They're all shysters, corruption on both sides of the House .

I'm always saddened when I hear of a woman not exercising her right to vote and I don't think I need to provide a history lesson to illustrate my despair.

As for them all being shysters. Have you not been reading the news? The current batch of Tory MPs have behaved appallingly. There is not a week goes by without a sexual assault, misappropriation of funds and/or some other sordid scandal. They have demonstrated an all time low in politics. Last time I checked, the same cannot be said for other parties.

However, not voting is a dereliction of duty to one's country and an easy "cop out" in my opinion.

Cossy Sat 20-Apr-24 08:42:54

I think it’s absolutely disgusting frankly!

Most GPs will only issue a “fit note” as they are now called for genuine reasons.

To target those with mental health issues and invisible disabilities is appalling.

Bring on the GE

ferry23 Sat 20-Apr-24 08:39:37

Let's face it, all governments are corrupt - but some are less corrupt than others.

It's a sorry state of affairs when we start to be thankful that ours is the latter hmm

keepingquiet Sat 20-Apr-24 08:38:41

So many people are flakes? How many exactly? Remarks like these are what cause people to blame those on the bottom for our social ills.

In our hardworking wider family of around 30 people only one I would consider a 'flake' as you put it. Yes, it makes me angry and I would rather the money went to genuine cases of need, but in any system there will be a few bad apples.

We can live in a society where people are supported by those who may need support themselves sometimes without other people blaming the poor instead of those in power like Sunak whose family are 'earning' more money every day than you can imagine.

It is time we got back to being a country where everyone was valued for the contribution they can make without whipping those at that bottom.

One day your daughter may be sick herself and need that support.

Freya5 Sat 20-Apr-24 08:33:35

vegansrock

He’s only saying all this as an attempt to get votes from the UKIP / Reform voters who love all the right wing rhetoric. He won’t be in any position to enact it if they lose the GE ( hopefully).

Oh dear, so they're not decent people in your estimation then. You have no idea how they will vote. I for one won't be, neither will I be voting Labour. In fact I've decided not to vote at all. They're all shysters, corruption on both sides of the House .

Nanatoone Sat 20-Apr-24 08:25:54

One thing I do know for sure. My daughter is a senior teacher and she has so many staff on the sick. One hasn’t been in in over a year and others are always off with “Covid” a “migraine” and other unidentifiable stuff. Sick days are a real problem and so many people are flakes. The impact on the rest of the staff and the children is dreadful. I don’t know if this has anything whatsoever to do with what Rishi said, but it’s high on my agenda.

Happygirl79 Sat 20-Apr-24 08:21:49

He won't be getting my vote by ruthlessly attacking the sick or disabled.
What next stopping pension payments because people are living too long?
He doesn't live in our world and has no idea of the suffering he will cause nor apparently does he care.
He is an unelected PM and he is overstaying his welcome in my opinion.

nadateturbe Sat 20-Apr-24 08:08:59

Totally agree. I was so angry and disgusted when I heard this yesterday.

vegansrock Sat 20-Apr-24 08:04:26

He’s only saying all this as an attempt to get votes from the UKIP / Reform voters who love all the right wing rhetoric. He won’t be in any position to enact it if they lose the GE ( hopefully).

LizzieDrip Sat 20-Apr-24 07:55:40

Well said mae13 👏👏👏 For God’s sake bring on the GE!!!

mae13 Sat 20-Apr-24 01:32:43

Well done our un-elected PM: going after the low-hanging fruit yet again, flagging up the worn-out rhetoric about the sick, disabled and mentally unstable not REALLY being sick, disabled or mentally unstable because he knows for certain that they are the traditional bunch of workshy scroungers. Being a billionaire gives him the authority to get on his high-horse and point an accusing finger.

He really is too desperate to get a vote by any means......sod the fact that his judgemental scare tactics generate terrifying levels of stress among the vulnerable who are dependent on measly benefits and have unbelievable circumstances to deal with already.

What an appalling example of a human being he is.