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Canary Islanders tell Brits to go home.

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lemsip Sat 20-Apr-24 14:27:10

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13330951/Canary-Islanders-protest-against-mass-tourism-freeze-holidaymakers-graffiti-Brits-Tourists.htmlThousands of

Canary Islanders take to the streets to protest against mass tourism and call for freeze on holidaymakers after graffiti told Brits: 'Tourists go home

oh dear. this has been on all news outlets.

silverlining48 Sat 20-Apr-24 18:44:25

Don’t know if this has already been said but it’s tourists in general, not Brits the people are demonstrating about. This is about so many hones being air b and b making them unavailable and unaffordable for locals. All inclusive hotels don’t help.
We have this in our country, empty houses in beautiful villages from Norfolk to Cornwall and no doubt north, in fact everywhere tourists want to visit.
It’s a tough one when a country relies on tourism.

dotpocka Sat 20-Apr-24 18:50:56

wish they would get rid them in orlando

Callistemon21 Sat 20-Apr-24 18:55:42

dotpocka

wish they would get rid them in orlando

That might be a challenge!

Callistemon21 Sat 20-Apr-24 18:57:27

silverlining48

Don’t know if this has already been said but it’s tourists in general, not Brits the people are demonstrating about. This is about so many hones being air b and b making them unavailable and unaffordable for locals. All inclusive hotels don’t help.
We have this in our country, empty houses in beautiful villages from Norfolk to Cornwall and no doubt north, in fact everywhere tourists want to visit.
It’s a tough one when a country relies on tourism.

Don’t know if this has already been said but it’s tourists in general, not Brits the people are demonstrating about.

Yes, that is why I said the heading was misleading, incurring the wrath of the OP!

silverlining48 Sat 20-Apr-24 19:00:58

Oh dear, thanks for the heads up. Should I be afraid grin

Witzend Sat 20-Apr-24 19:01:57

Similar in Majorca, according to a friend with a house there - her dad bought it in 1971.
Locals priced out, and not happy.

Callistemon21 Sat 20-Apr-24 20:42:35

silverlining48

Oh dear, thanks for the heads up. Should I be afraid grin

Very!
😨

RosiesMaw Sun 21-Apr-24 06:46:25

Mamie

Maybe they will duck out. 😂😂😂

grinYou’ll be getting your coat? 🦆 🦆 🦆

Curtaintwitcher Sun 21-Apr-24 06:57:22

So many places in the world have been spoiled by tourism. The host countries are to blame for encouraging it. They build huge hotels and eateries to cater for holiday-makers. By doing so, they ruin the nature of the place and destroy the very reason why people go there.
Yes, tourists bring money to the local economy, but is it worth it?

LucyAnna Sun 21-Apr-24 07:03:17

Bump

Katie59 Sun 21-Apr-24 07:22:42

We like to get away from the tourists areas, years ago we would have used B&Bs, now it’s Airbnb’s which usually means an annex rather than a room. Weve found some lovely places away from the beaten track, lovely people too.

If the locals don’t like the planning policy - change it, but no tourists means no jobs and the locals still can’t afford to buy a house. Tourism does mean jobs, the downside is the jobs are mainly low paid service jobs but you’re not going to attract many industrial jobs in usually remote areas.

Vintagewhine Sun 21-Apr-24 07:44:30

It's about a balance and unfortunately a great many places don't have that having let tourism expand too much. When children were young we had a second home which we used most weekends and every holiday. We sold to a local but it's now advertised on Airbnb. When sil retired she moved permanently into her second home and complains constantly about the empty holiday homes! She really struggles to find workmen and when her husband needed lots of care she couldn't find it despite being willing to pay very well. Locals just can't afford to live locally.

flappergirl Sun 21-Apr-24 10:17:07

The Daily Mail is of course framing the protests as racially motivated and organised by idiotic rabble. They are trying to convince a very easily persuaded demographic that the Canary islanders are spoilt children who want their cake and eat it and are biting the (obviously superior) British hand that feeds them. Oh so typical of Johnny Foreigner!

The newspaper, as usual, is doing itself and its readers a disservice and will not be on the right side of history.

Tourism in its current state in countries all over the world is untenable. The planet is over crowded and resources are dwindling. Housing will soon be a luxury for vast swathes of the population and water, in the not too distant future, will start to run low.

I was watching a wildlife programme just the other day about safaris in Africa. One imagines being taken on a jeep across sweeping empty plains by a caring local who is an expert on wild animals.

Nothing could be further from the truth. There were about 50 jeeps packed with humans all concentrated in one spot gawping at cheetah cubs who were obviously very disturbed by the noise and petrol fumes.

Apparently cheetah cubs are often run over and killed by the jeeps. The programme reduced me to tears.

Things are going to have to change radically. Continuing as we are is not an option and I think the Canary Island protests are just the beginning.

keepingquiet Sun 21-Apr-24 10:22:27

Oh this from Flappergirl says everything I was going to say.

I am amazed since I came back to this site how so may people are wound up by what the read in the Mail or on TV news?

What happened to questioning the media?

flappergirl Sun 21-Apr-24 10:44:09

keepingquiet

Oh this from Flappergirl says everything I was going to say.

I am amazed since I came back to this site how so may people are wound up by what the read in the Mail or on TV news?

What happened to questioning the media?

I'm amazed too keepingquiet. Why are newspapers regarded as paragons of truth? They are run for money and to push their own agenda, pure and simple. Other than trying to avoid libel suits (which they often fail at anyway) they can spin anything to their advantage. Words are one of the most dangerous and easily manipulated tools known to mankind and always have been.

Callistemon21 Sun 21-Apr-24 10:57:43

keepingquiet

Oh this from Flappergirl says everything I was going to say.

I am amazed since I came back to this site how so may people are wound up by what the read in the Mail or on TV news?

What happened to questioning the media?

If you read the link you'll see that it was not reported quite like that.

My post earlier, Callistemon21 Sat 20-Apr-24 15:10 contains an extract from the DM report.

It is not just British tourists, it is tourists from other countries too, although one 15 year old complained about having to learn English in school in order to accommodate the tourist industry. 🤔 In fact, many students the world over learn English as a second language and British schoolchildren have to learn a second language in school (often Spanish!).

Yes, I will agree that tourism probably is damaging our planet.

I don't agree that we will run out of water, it's just that we don't manage it well. Oil and gas pipelines traverse continents, go under the seas but there is not the same will to provide water in areas that need it.

TerriBull Sun 21-Apr-24 11:01:22

I've been to the Canaries several times during winter months, I didn't realise the problems the local people were experiencing, but they would definitely have my sympathy and I would think twice about going again, I wouldn't want to add to their problems, and neither would I want to go anywhere where I felt I would be part of the burden they are experiencing. Yes! absolutely they must come first but I guess they also have to factor in how the loss/reduced tourism would impact on their economy, I also sympathise with any foreign country who has to put up with the worst of badly behaved tourists. When they are from our country it does make me feel they shame us all and it makes me angry when such people disrespect the local population.

Katie59 Sun 21-Apr-24 11:07:30

At the prices you pay for a Safari holiday you are benefiting the locals and the local conservation a great deal, the downside is the immense amount of CO2 that is produced to get you there.

Running over cheetah cubs is a gross exaggeration, adults are hard enough to find. Disturbing the wildlife is rubbish, vehicles are ignored by the vast majority of animals, the exception are large territorial male animals, they are dangerous, Elephants, Rhino, Cape Buffalo, Hippo your driver will know to stay well away from those.
When it comes to pollution you can say exactly the same for Maccu Picu, Galapagos or Angkor Wat. Your tourist dollars make a big difference to rural areas overseas.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 21-Apr-24 11:15:17

A lot of the tourist £/$/€ spent on game safaris in Africa goes towards conservation.

One of or AC lived within 15 minutes of an enormous conservation reserve, we visited it numerous times. The amount of jeeps allowed in each day and where they could go was strictly governed.

Not all tourists/tourism is detrimental to the area, a lot provides much needed jobs and the encouragement to locals to keep up with local traditions and craftsmanship.

Joseann Sun 21-Apr-24 12:08:17

RosiesMaw

Mamie

Maybe they will duck out. 😂😂😂

grinYou’ll be getting your coat? 🦆 🦆 🦆

Orange sauce? grin

keepingquiet Sun 21-Apr-24 12:09:15

flappergirl

keepingquiet

Oh this from Flappergirl says everything I was going to say.

I am amazed since I came back to this site how so may people are wound up by what the read in the Mail or on TV news?

What happened to questioning the media?

I'm amazed too keepingquiet. Why are newspapers regarded as paragons of truth? They are run for money and to push their own agenda, pure and simple. Other than trying to avoid libel suits (which they often fail at anyway) they can spin anything to their advantage. Words are one of the most dangerous and easily manipulated tools known to mankind and always have been.

It is almost impossible to get to the truth of anything these days. What annoys me about gullible media soaking up what the media tells them like sponges, is that they don't even try.

The media just take advantage of the sponges and keep churning this stuff out. Nothing will change until people get media savvy and stop buying it.

To get back to original topic I've only been to Tenerife back in 1979- I suspect it bears little resemblance to how it was then.

RunaroundSue Sun 21-Apr-24 12:17:55

They will regret this in the future as holidaymakers will find other places to go. Our son and his family are going there in July but they have said if there are problems, they will never go again. Perhaps it is the younger generation they are complaining about, partying all hours of the day and night, getting drunk etc.

nanna8 Sun 21-Apr-24 12:18:24

Some people just can’t keep their traps shut. We have a colony of penguins near our holiday house. No one except those who live there knew about it until now . Now the beach at night fills with tourists with flashlights and loud voices so they frighten the chicks and the parent birds are scared off and the chicks starve. Nothing worse than thoughtless tourists.

glammagran Sun 21-Apr-24 12:26:35

We went to a smallish game park in South Africa 9 years ago. The description given by another poster bears no resemblence to what we experienced. Our driver was very knowledgeable and we could drive for an hour without seeing another jeep and when we encountered wildlife (and we did see a female cheetah with 3 cubs) the driver switched his engine off and it was so quiet you could hear lions footfall on the road. The animals ignored us totally. We got within a few feet of a female giraffe with her calf who didn’t even look at us while eating from an acacia tree at the side of the road. The downside was nobody had told us it could get down to 0°c at dawn and dusk in September and we hadn’t enough warm clothing. 😂

silverlining48 Sun 21-Apr-24 14:10:25

Canard indeed grin