Angela Rayner lashes out and calls Sunak “pint sized loser”.

eazybee

From Lord Ashcroft's forthcoming biography about Angela Rayner.
"If there is one thing Labour's deputy leader can be relied on to talk about, it's her deprived working-class childhood, which culminated in her becoming a mother at 16 and a low-paid home help. Again and again, Angela Rayner has returned to the topic – at Labour Party conferences, in media interviews, even in the Commons debating chamber. Along with her blazing red hair and her penchant for making inflammatory remarks, it's helped make her a semi-celebrity amid a sea of middle-class MPs.

Her advisers have tried to persuade her to 'change the record', says a former colleague, and find new things to talk about, but she refused. An ex-colleague said: 'We did say to her, 'Angela, we've got to move on from this stuff and focus on the future. You need to give them some idea of where you want to take people. But she would always hark back to her hard-luck history because it was the fail-safe method she used to disarm journalists or critics and for building up her reputation within the Labour Party. When she told her back story at Labour meetings they would always lap it up, and she would say, 'It's catnip to them.' Those were her words.
'She was privately very dismissive of their response, but publicly she'd accept all the hugs and embraces people would give her as a self-proclaimed working-class heroine. She knew it played so well in the Labour Party."

He’s hilarious isn’t he, the posh version of Nadine Dorries. Just read this summary of his autobiography of Rishi Sunak.
www.theguardian.com/books/2020/nov/15/going-for-broke-the-rise-of-rishi-sunak-by-michael-ashcroft-review-too-perfect-to-be-plausible

I agree, eazybee. Rayner’s supporters may not like what he has to say, but he would be careful to check the veracity of his sources.

Crossstitchfan

Errr - nitpicking?

Who?
We're all picking nits, so it's difficult to decide who you mean.

It's not necessary to be a fan of someone's to dislike what is said about them.
Particularly when it applies to so many mps.

Or just passes by without remark.

We have spent 14 pages on it

Angela and Cherie both lacked a father figure and were not brought up in the lap of luxury - one harps on about it ad infinitum (catnip? Who knew) and the other knew a Grammar school and University would be her saviour.

‘The flaming red hair’ quote was quite polite from him wasn’t it? He might have used Ginger Minger but that would have been so rude and derogatory about her appearance… oh wait!

Its fascinating how she seems to upset women far more than men.

Does she? We can’t tell on the basis of this thread. What my husband says about her is unprintable.

Well, I think I can tell on the basis of this thread.
I think she rocks women's ideas of being "good women" and the sort that "decent men" would be interested in.

That's my bit of armchair psychology for today.

Completely different backgrounds though Pantglas. Cherie’s parents were well educated, and she was properly cared for. Her mother wasn’t mentally ill so she wasn’t a carer, which makes a huge difference to a child.

I doubt any men are on this thread, so you can’t possibly use it as evidence that she upsets.women far more than men.

This thread isn't representative of the entire uk population.
Not by a long shot.

eazybee

If you are referring to Lord Ashcroft, he has done considerable research for his book, which can be disputed by its subject. and I would say he is presenting the truth.

I think you'll find that Ashcroft pays researchers for his material.

I also recall that he was 'co-author' of an unofficial biography of David Cameron with its dubious story about a pig's head...

Judged by some to be a 'revenge job'...

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/21/lord-ashcrofts-cameron-biography-bears-hallmarks-of-revenge-job

I'm not altogether sure that Ashcroft is the reliable source that people think he is...

It would appear however that the majority of the really nasty attacks on her from social media are by men
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/angela-rayner-opens-up-terrifying-27178370

Quote MissAdventure Fri 26-Apr-24 10:11:35
Well, I think I can tell on the basis of this thread.
I think she rocks women's ideas of being "good women" and the sort that "decent men" would be interested in.

Only here have I read she is from the gutter

That’s not proof that it hasn’t been said elsewhere is it?

Wyllow3

It would appear however that the majority of the really nasty attacks on her from social media are by men
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/angela-rayner-opens-up-terrifying-27178370

I do not think that kind of abuse is on the same level.

Hoping she gets shot...
Abuse by men, yes absolutely, but the horrible slurs on everything about her seem particular to women.

The average man in the the street appears not that upset by her, even if they acknowledge she is gobby.

I would like to see your evidence for that assertion.

It's just based on what I have seen said about her on social media.

I didn't collect evidence, as such, any more than anyone here has evidence to support that she comes "from the gutter" or other such delightful assertions.

She does say that other women mps are supportive, as they all are of each other.
So, that's something straight from the horses mouth provided by wyllow.

Her comment on Sunak was 'sizeist' but he will be a loser come the GE.

MissAdventure

Its fascinating how she seems to upset women far more than men.

This forum is mainly women, so what do you expect?😄
Seems to me that it’s not her roots that are a problem, I mean, well done for getting where she is with trade union help of course, but it’s what she says and the manner of it.Also the fact that she was and is, a great fan of Corbyn and his political ideas.
In other words, too far left for this voter.

No earthly reason to say she came from the gutter

I have never said that and wouldn’t it’s a horrible insult.
But we can criticise an MP regardless of their upbringing, a sink estate or Eton.

Did not say you said it Oreo,

Just sneaking in a lunchtime photo of Padstow this morning for MissAdventure and AGAA4.
Back to read up on AR later.