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Angela Rayner lashes out and calls Sunak “pint sized loser”.

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Urmstongran Wed 24-Apr-24 13:44:22

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Not very PC is she? Heck.

Casdon Fri 26-Apr-24 08:07:03

Allsorts

It was to be expected. She knew what she was doing, what if a man had said she was built like a cart horse. It’s about time the House was bought to order. If a man said something about a woman’s appearance would that be ok?

I’m not sure what the basic instinct smear of Angela Rayner was, if not about her appearance? It was certainly sexism at the basest level.

Joseann Fri 26-Apr-24 08:07:06

Not you MissAdventure! AR and me! I wouldn't insult you!

Freya5 Fri 26-Apr-24 08:08:45

MissAdventure

She had also singled out radio host James O’Brien, who she called a ‘public school posh boy f**k wit’ after he had blocked Dorries on Twitter.

She's right on that one. He's a pompous hoo ha.

MissAdventure Fri 26-Apr-24 08:08:58

grin
Thank you.
Rayner's own words, though...

Labour’s Deputy Leader Angela Rayner is sometimes described as ‘fiery’ or ‘ballsy’, an authentic, working-class ‘gobby Northern lass’ – her own words – who can stick it to the Tories.

MissAdventure Fri 26-Apr-24 08:11:28

Not very classy though, is it, to use the words "fuc* wit"?
Freya5
Sounds very common.

Joseann Fri 26-Apr-24 08:14:52

MissAdventure

grin
Thank you.
Rayner's own words, though...

Labour’s Deputy Leader Angela Rayner is sometimes described as ‘fiery’ or ‘ballsy’, an authentic, working-class ‘gobby Northern lass’ – her own words – who can stick it to the Tories.

Well I'm glad she has a self-deprecating side to her too. I like that!
Anyway, I must go now (on holiday). I'm off to try out my Cornish accent with the fishermen at the harbour while walking the dogs!

MissAdventure Fri 26-Apr-24 08:20:09

Oh how lovely!
Every single holiday I had as a child was in Cornwall.
My mum and dad loved it, and hoped to retire there. (A pipe dream, really)
Have a good day.

AGAA4 Fri 26-Apr-24 08:34:14

Ahhh ... beautiful Cornwall. Very envious. Back to AR. I would hate to have a slanging match with her.

Pantglas2 Fri 26-Apr-24 08:38:20

Nor me AGA
she can dish it out but the minute anyone comes back at her she plays the ‘poor me’ card and ends up with the pity factor in her favour!

It’s a good working tactic I suppose but Cherie Blair never used it and she’s the one I admire!

MissAdventure Fri 26-Apr-24 08:45:29

Where has she used the "poor me" excuse?
I'm not being facetious, I'm genuinely surprised if she she sees herself as a "poor me" case.

Primrose53 Fri 26-Apr-24 09:09:08

MissAdventure

It is a quote from Nadine Dorries' book, 'The Plot'.
Good that it’s getting wider attention.

Prove it!

Iam64 Fri 26-Apr-24 09:19:34

MissAdventure

Where has she used the "poor me" excuse?
I'm not being facetious, I'm genuinely surprised if she she sees herself as a "poor me" case.

Absolutely MissA

Pantglas2 Fri 26-Apr-24 09:36:40

Disingenuous much?

Pretty much every interview I’ve ever seen or read has covered her childhood, teenage years et cetera and off the top of my head check out The Guardian, British Vogue, ITV news
.

I don’t recall Cherie Blair trotting out the same old, same old to keep playing on heartstrings - some get on with it and a few get stuck on it!

Parsley3 Fri 26-Apr-24 09:38:47

Iam64

I’ve always admired Alan Johnson. Comparing his childhood with the one Angela Rayner experienced is like comparing chalk and cheese. Both knew poverty, both had feckless absent fathers.
Johnson’s mother was a stable, hard working woman. She managed against the odds to bring up her son and daughter decently. She died at 42, when Alan was 13 and Linda 16. She was supported by a social worker in resisting attempts to take them into care. Instead they got a council flat . Alan Johnson was in touch with the sw when he write an autobiography. He credited his success to the support and love of his mother and sister and thanked the sw for sticking their neck out for them

I won’t detail Rayner’s different experiences but they lacked the loving care of a stable mother or an older sister

And yet people still ask, and I quote , why can't a woman be more like a man?
Well done, Angela.

MissAdventure Fri 26-Apr-24 09:43:08

Without reading the book, I can't.
Just as you can't prove it isn't without reading it.

Unless you already have? smile

MissAdventure Fri 26-Apr-24 09:45:57

Pantglas2

Disingenuous much?

Pretty much every interview I’ve ever seen or read has covered her childhood, teenage years et cetera and off the top of my head check out The Guardian, British Vogue, ITV news
.

I don’t recall Cherie Blair trotting out the same old, same old to keep playing on heartstrings - some get on with it and a few get stuck on it!

Well obviously Cherie did at some point, or else you wouldn't know about her upbringing.

Perhaps Rayner does it far more often, though; I wouldn't know.

I know,she spoke out when it was mental health awareness week or something like that.

eazybee Fri 26-Apr-24 09:47:19

From Lord Ashcroft's forthcoming biography about Angela Rayner.
"If there is one thing Labour's deputy leader can be relied on to talk about, it's her deprived working-class childhood, which culminated in her becoming a mother at 16 and a low-paid home help. Again and again, Angela Rayner has returned to the topic – at Labour Party conferences, in media interviews, even in the Commons debating chamber. Along with her blazing red hair and her penchant for making inflammatory remarks, it's helped make her a semi-celebrity amid a sea of middle-class MPs.

Her advisers have tried to persuade her to 'change the record', says a former colleague, and find new things to talk about, but she refused. An ex-colleague said: 'We did say to her, 'Angela, we've got to move on from this stuff and focus on the future. You need to give them some idea of where you want to take people. But she would always hark back to her hard-luck history because it was the fail-safe method she used to disarm journalists or critics and for building up her reputation within the Labour Party. When she told her back story at Labour meetings they would always lap it up, and she would say, 'It's catnip to them.' Those were her words.
'She was privately very dismissive of their response, but publicly she'd accept all the hugs and embraces people would give her as a self-proclaimed working-class heroine. She knew it played so well in the Labour Party."

Casdon Fri 26-Apr-24 09:48:02

Pantglas2

Disingenuous much?

Pretty much every interview I’ve ever seen or read has covered her childhood, teenage years et cetera and off the top of my head check out The Guardian, British Vogue, ITV news
.

I don’t recall Cherie Blair trotting out the same old, same old to keep playing on heartstrings - some get on with it and a few get stuck on it!

I don’t understand your comparison of the backgrounds of Cherie Blair and Angela Rayner Pantglas? Cherie’s parents were divorced when she was eight, but she was brought up by her mother and grandma in a stable household, and went to university?

MissAdventure Fri 26-Apr-24 09:48:27

And he is the authority on someone else's life?

MissAdventure Fri 26-Apr-24 09:50:16

"Her flaming red hair" kind of spoils it for me, that he is in any way competent to speak about her.

Crossstitchfan Fri 26-Apr-24 09:51:50

Errr - nitpicking?

eazybee Fri 26-Apr-24 09:51:50

If you are referring to Lord Ashcroft, he has done considerable research for his book, which can be disputed by its subject. and I would say he is presenting the truth.

MissAdventure Fri 26-Apr-24 09:53:32

Where has he researched someone else's life?
How?
He is cashing in.
Pure and simple, and shameful.

Earning money off someone he hasn't a good word for.

Wyllow3 Fri 26-Apr-24 09:53:54

In terms of this remark, I don't know why her background is being brought into it by us.

Unless one is making the point that equivalent pointed/qustionable remarks are always being made by others but in a posher way?

MissAdventure Fri 26-Apr-24 09:54:47

It's better if its said posher. smile