By-election and local authority results.

Urmstongran

MaizieD

The question in my mind is, will these results make it so clear to Sunak that the electorate just doesn't want the tories that he will call a GE for the summer, or will he just keep the government limping on until the very last minute to cause maximum devastation for the next government to clear up?

I think Sunak want the flights to Rwanda to be up and running before he calls a GE.

Just in time for the new parliament to stop them, even if it’s a hung parliament (quite likely)

Oh that is interesting katie59

I would be grateful if you could send me the data that suggests a hung parliament.

I have looked but can’t find it.

Whitewavemark2

urms live dangerously and give Labour a go😄😄

It can’t get a lot worse!

Not sure about that.

We are not in for a repeat of the Blair/Brown government which many voters are hoping for. Keir Starmer and the shadow cabinet are not in the same league. And of course there isn't a magic money tree.

Any honeymoon period will be very short for the incoming government. There will be a flood of wage demands/strikes. Voters will expect the NHS to improve and that certainly won't happen quickly.

I have no idea who to vote for come the GE. It won't be KS unless he's work out that a woman cannot have a penis.

And did Boris Johnson REALLY forget about ID........or is he simply addicted to publicity?

Sarnia

I found it amusing that Boris was sent back home for his photo ID.

I thought he was an attention seeking by forgetting it, but at least he was turned away.

Urmstongran

By elections and or local council elections used to be considered as an opportunity for a protest vote. I don’t think this is the case with yesterday’s polling. I think the Tories will get annihilated at the GE - whenever it is held. I’m in two minds though about this. I want the Tories out they’ve made such a mess of pretty much everything but I’m wary of Labour, who will romp it. Eek!

I think most of us are a little wary now whoever takes the reins.

MaizieD

The question in my mind is, will these results make it so clear to Sunak that the electorate just doesn't want the tories that he will call a GE for the summer, or will he just keep the government limping on until the very last minute to cause maximum devastation for the next government to clear up?

I think he’ll hang on til the bitter end.

I just want the GE out of the way so we can move forward and hopefully get our economy on a more even keel.

I’m not taking anything for granted that we will end up with a labour majority, Tories could battle back in (😱😱😱) or we could end up with a hung parliament or a coalition. 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

I have no idea who to vote for come the GE. It won't be KS unless he's work out that a woman cannot have a penis.

The idea is to vote for the party whose ethos and policies are most closely aligned to your own, not any one individual.

If we didn’t vote for a party based on silly things their leader once said the Tories wouldn’t keep being elected, based on their most recent leaders!

Don't be so bloody condescending Cossy.

I would love to elaborate but I'm on my way out. Travelling to do the school run.

Mamardoit

Don't be so bloody condescending Cossy.

I would love to elaborate but I'm on my way out. Travelling to do the school run.

It wasn’t meant to be condescending or patronising, so apologies. You were the one who made a daft comment for not voting labour!

Whitewavemark2

Oh that is interesting katie59

I would be grateful if you could send me the data that suggests a hung parliament.

I have looked but can’t find it.

Don’t read too much into todays results, votes in a GE are different, it would help if they could take some seats off the SNP as well as Tories

To get an outright majority they need 325 say 350 for a comfortable majority that’s a long way from 203 they have now, Labour supporters should not be complacent.
I hope they do get a landslide but no guarantees.

Katie59

Whitewavemark2

Oh that is interesting katie59

I would be grateful if you could send me the data that suggests a hung parliament.

I have looked but can’t find it.

Don’t read too much into todays results, votes in a GE are different, it would help if they could take some seats off the SNP as well as Tories

To get an outright majority they need 325 say 350 for a comfortable majority that’s a long way from 203 they have now, Labour supporters should not be complacent.
I hope they do get a landslide but no guarantees.

Looking at the electoral map so far, the figures don’t bare your assertion out that there will be a hung parliament.

I do, however accept that the GE result will probably be tighter than todays results suggest. I have never thought any different.

Be careful what you vote for.
Is there a Common sense party that
would make a nice change.
Have a good day everybody.

I’ve just noticed that in the latest version of the local election results the Lib Dem’s have moved into second place, they currently have more declared councillors than the Tories.

Locally we still have a hung council - in order of seats, Labour, Lib Dem, Greens, slight increase Labour tho in each seat their share of the vote went up substantially.

The big news of the day is that my town for years and years has only had one Tory councillor - and it flipped completely over to a large Labour majority. I think something local must have been going on as here traditionally Lib Dems are the Labour opposition.

Not paid too much attention to this but I hear Reform party did very well.

Primrose53

Not paid too much attention to this but I hear Reform party did very well.

Well enough to worry the Tories, and well enough to hearten Labour that the Tory vote will be split.

Reform have zero seats. It’s a repeat of UKIP, the BNP etc.

Whitewavemark2

Oh that is interesting katie59

I would be grateful if you could send me the data that suggests a hung parliament.

I have looked but can’t find it.

Have just read that on either BBC or Sky news.Based on what happened yesterday the analysis is that Labour would be about 32 seats short of a majority.They would then need a coalition with Lid Dems or others.
An actual GE tho may be completely different.

Lib dems!😄

Reform haven’t won a single seat.

They can keep saying their vote share is at the level they predicted for a general election as if that’s a good thing, but it’s not, because it’s reasonable to expect a higher share in local elections (as per the posts above about Labour).

In the Blackpool by-election, the combined Reform and Tory vote share was only just over half that of Labour, suggesting there are quite a lot of centrist votes to play for, although that’s not, I suspect, the message the Tories will hear.

Whitewavemark2... Apprently Reform won 2 seats... So the BBC website claim.

Urmstongran

By elections and or local council elections used to be considered as an opportunity for a protest vote. I don’t think this is the case with yesterday’s polling. I think the Tories will get annihilated at the GE - whenever it is held. I’m in two minds though about this. I want the Tories out they’ve made such a mess of pretty much everything but I’m wary of Labour, who will romp it. Eek!

It's a pity local elections are used as a protest vote.

Over the years, I have noticed that Conservatives seemed to work better than other parties in Local Government, more concerned about local affairs and more in touch with the thoughts and needs of the local population, than Labour or other parties, particularly the Lib Dems and Greens.

However, in Central Government they are often disastrous.

Why?

Casdon

It’s going very well for Labour so far, and for the Lib Dem’s in their strongholds, it’s going to be an interesting day.

I want to have a little whinge though, about the Police Commissioner elections where that is the only election you are voting for. I don’t know if it was the case anywhere else, but because the PCCs are elected nationally on the same cycle, a huge amount of money was spent sending out polling cards, running polling stations and for the counts just for them - I’d be very surprised if the turnout was above about 15% - I voted at 8.30am, and I was only the third person at my station. Surely it would make more sense if they were elected on the same cycle as local councils for each area?

Oh yes!

I always vote but for the first time I didn't, because I would have spoiled my ballot paper anyway. I don't agree with the role of Police and Crime Commissioner. A useless, needless layer of bureaucracy imo.

Visgir1

Whitewavemark2... Apprently Reform won 2 seats... So the BBC website claim.

They hadn't when Wwmk2 posted.

BBC now showing them with 2 seats with 102 out of 107 council results in.

They may have scared the tories with the by election result but they're making no progress at all at local council level.

The turnout was low, because many people just couldn't decide who to vote for. I usually cast my vote but on this occasion, I didn't. It was a council election and I haven't been very impressed by my local councillor.

I'm very concerned by the fact that Muslims brought the situation in the Middle East into the equation. They see being pro-Israel as being anti-Muslim and take it personally.
I hope this is not going to be allowed to overshadow British politics.