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A Green Party candidate shouted “Allahu Akbar!......

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lemsip Sun 05-May-24 17:11:37

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/04/green-party-mothin-ali-allahu-akba-leeds-gipton-harehills/Mr Ali was one of dozens of candidates around the country who ran on a Gaza ticket and, in doing so, defeated their Labour rival.

whatever is happening to our country?
needs reading....

maddyone Tue 07-May-24 23:30:45

a kind of animal, an absolute low life, absolutely disgusting, and shameful

I think he was actually describing himself.

Wyllow3 Tue 07-May-24 22:40:02

Surely the video is criminal?

Oreo Tue 07-May-24 21:36:30

CyberBug123

This report was what I found really disturbing earlier today, along with it's up there with the stories of teachers etc being in fear of their lives for simply 'teaching'.

Meanwhile in February he created a video that branded a Jewish Rabbi 'this creep,' calling him a 'kind of animal,' an 'absolute low-life,' 'absolutely disgusting' and 'shameful'.

He falsely claimed that he had deliberately attempted to 'kill women and children' in Gaza.

The Rabbi, who is Leeds University's Jewish Chaplain, was forced to go into hiding with his family after threats were made against him when he returned to the university after temporarily serving in the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF).

What a charmer!

Wyllow3 Tue 07-May-24 18:51:18

I've just googled examples of child abuse MP's and cover ups from both of the 2 major parties - certainly doesn't excuse what happened in the Greens (a prominent woman's father had been involved and she hid it, and appointed her father as her election agent) - never acceptable - hoping procedures are indeed tightened up now.

I'd like to think that measures could be taken against the O/P person of interest on the basis of hate tweets, but there are quite a few lurking in prominent people's pasts. (and I dont know the law on it)

Galaxy Tue 07-May-24 17:48:07

The greens have struggled with this kind of thing before, they got mired in a deeply unpleasant child safeguarding issue a while back, not that convinced by their procedures to be honest.

Wyllow3 Tue 07-May-24 17:43:32

I guess you mean for local council elections as in a GE Foreign Policy is one of the key issues?

DiamondLily Tue 07-May-24 17:38:37

Sectarian politics, of whatever hue, from other countries, are nothing to do with us.

To be honest, I thought the Greens were just about “Green issues”, sustainability etc.,

Obviously not. 🙄

Wyllow3 Tue 07-May-24 10:42:36

Agreed.

I'm sure there is a lot going on in Greens HQ. Local Greens who compose a substantial number of seats in our hung council must be shocked. Policy statements show usual range of Green issues tailored to our city.

As you say, our local stood as "Independent" - and pix show him standing quietly at the hustings alongside other parties and quotes about wide range issues and representing his ward.

LizzieDrip Tue 07-May-24 08:25:22

I am uncomfortable with sectarianism entering politics. I think all parties must look very closely at their selection processes for candidates. It appears that, in this case, the Greens (either knowingly or unknowingly) have given a platform for someone pushing one sectarian agenda. In the UK democracy, this man has a right to his opinion and has a voice, but IMO he should have stood as an independent candidate. The Greens need to be careful - this could potentially backfire on them.

Anniebach Tue 07-May-24 08:08:08

Jews must be so fearful hearing of this person

Iam64 Tue 07-May-24 08:02:31

There is a problem in our country when one faith community seeks to demonise another in the way Mothin Ali and his followers do.
Children are being taught nonsense and bigotry towards Jewish / Israeli people. Before anyone leaps in to remind me incidents of Islamophobia have increased, yes I know this. The attacks on Jewish synagogues, communities, threats leading to guards at schools have increased enormously.
I wish I felt more positive

Urmstongran Tue 07-May-24 07:34:30

Not just calling out ‘Allahu Akbar’ then.
We need to wake up!

Urmstongran Tue 07-May-24 07:31:32

From the Daily Mail just now:

“ Mothin Ali (pictured), who was elected to Leeds city council last week, had called Leeds University's Jewish chaplain, Zecharia Deutsch, a 'creep', a 'low-life' and an 'animal'.

Apparently the Greens were given a dossier on him months ago. This beggars belief! Are they so desperate to appeal?

maddyone Mon 06-May-24 23:32:29

Bins and education are important, along with a good number of other local issues.
This man is clearly not interested in either bins or education, he is interested in Gaza, division, and hatred.

Anniebach Mon 06-May-24 22:31:50

Bins are very important, winter of discontent brought rats running around pavements, horrible and frightening

Wyllow3 Mon 06-May-24 22:26:19

Well actually I'd rather they concentrated on decent education and care services, resources for the most deprived areas....

Urmstongran Mon 06-May-24 21:28:29

Caleo

Urmstongran

This is England. It is not our fight. Let these extremists go and shout somewhere relevant to the subject.

Urmstongran, it's not extremist to glorify God.It is perhaps not usual for older English people to shout that they glorify God, but hardly "extremist". God is relevant to all moral and political quests.

It was the “this is for Gaza” that annoyed me and so I said what I did.
Just concentrate on the bluddy bins and potholes Councillor! Instead of using your position as a platform.

CyberBug123 Mon 06-May-24 20:51:13

This report was what I found really disturbing earlier today, along with it's up there with the stories of teachers etc being in fear of their lives for simply 'teaching'.

Meanwhile in February he created a video that branded a Jewish Rabbi 'this creep,' calling him a 'kind of animal,' an 'absolute low-life,' 'absolutely disgusting' and 'shameful'.

He falsely claimed that he had deliberately attempted to 'kill women and children' in Gaza.

The Rabbi, who is Leeds University's Jewish Chaplain, was forced to go into hiding with his family after threats were made against him when he returned to the university after temporarily serving in the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF).

Wyllow3 Mon 06-May-24 19:50:29

Read up all I can on this candidates' actions on the platform and the Green Party and the sort of very far left group that go for the rent a mob/drama

It just didn't make sense for a "Green".

There is a strong element in the Green Party of Jewish Greens (do google)

Up and down the country most of the candidates who have made a specific point on Gaza are people for whom the regular parties have not taken a stronger stand.

They have stood as Independents and our local one works in community work and is known as someone who will do the job as candidate - not make agit-prop drama.

Indeed, A Green candidate stood against him

I think it's possible there has been some deliberate infiltration (ie, people hiding real intentions) just as there was with the Greens and issues during XR.

Galaxy Mon 06-May-24 19:48:33

Which God is relevant?

Caleo Mon 06-May-24 19:47:12

Urmstongran

This is England. It is not our fight. Let these extremists go and shout somewhere relevant to the subject.

Urmstongran, it's not extremist to glorify God.It is perhaps not usual for older English people to shout that they glorify God, but hardly "extremist". God is relevant to all moral and political quests.

Cossy Mon 06-May-24 19:35:55

Sarnia

I find this a worrying trend. I couldn't care less what religion he follows but he has been elected for his local area and I hope he puts all his efforts into helping all the people who live there irrespective of race or religion and doesn't see this as a platform for Gaza or anything else that detracts from what he has been elected to do. I can see why Rishi Sunak was making a public statement outside No 10 recently.

I agree.

Sarnia Mon 06-May-24 18:44:26

I find this a worrying trend. I couldn't care less what religion he follows but he has been elected for his local area and I hope he puts all his efforts into helping all the people who live there irrespective of race or religion and doesn't see this as a platform for Gaza or anything else that detracts from what he has been elected to do. I can see why Rishi Sunak was making a public statement outside No 10 recently.

Iam64 Mon 06-May-24 18:41:35

Cossy

PuddyCat

This is England. It is not our fight. Let these extremists go and shout somewhere relevant to the subject.

Ah, now there's a problem with that. There is no freedom of speech in middle Eastern countries, particularly in Palestine or Egypt; they face certain imprisonment or death if caught expressing anything but the party line there. So they come here instead.

Makes me realised how lucky we are here in this country, though we do often forget.

I spent January in Egypt, lucky me. I spoke with many Egyptians who had no difficulty expressing views thst were critical of their government. On the positive side, unanimous support for Egypt maintaining neutrality in diplomatic attempts to broker peace in Palestine/Israel. =

GrannyRose15 Mon 06-May-24 18:37:02

But no one should be hijacking council elections to make their speeches about a conflict that has nothing to do with the work of the council in question. Gipton and Harehills now does not have a representative to do the work of the council. That is to everyone detriment. Leeds council can’t afford to be a man down because one of the councillors is engaged on other issues.