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The 7th rebrand in 18 months - is this one any better?

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M0nica Thu 16-May-24 15:42:52

But who has any confidence that Starmer's promises won't be as empty as Sunak's

Where are all those extra teachers going to come from? Teachers are already leaving the profession in droves, driven out by stress and exhaustion and with no intention of coming back. And as for those 40,000 a week/month/year(?) appointments in the NHS, where are the medical qualified staff to deal with these coming from. Possibly by reducing a doctor's training to 6 months? and nurses training to 6 weeks and introducing instant operations at your local Pharmacy?

GrannyRose15 Thu 16-May-24 15:21:22

I’d go with Starmer’s six point plan if I were you. There’s nothing in that that anyone can complain about.

Grantanow Thu 16-May-24 15:06:34

These Tory rebrands are pointless as most of the public have given up listening because they are fed up with all the failed promises like reducing waiting lists, the Truss 'tax' on mortgages, the laughable Rwanda scheme, etc.

Grannybags Thu 16-May-24 14:42:53

Whitewavemark2

There is a cartoon showing Sunak as “chicken licken” running around in circles screeching “the sky is falling in and we have a plan”😄

🤣🤣🤣

Whitewavemark2 Thu 16-May-24 14:34:11

The issue as far as the British voter is concerned is that we know that none of the so-called policies will come to fruition. It is all hot air.

We need a change of government.

LizzieDrip Thu 16-May-24 14:31:04

Casdon
I think the biggest problem Sunak has now CvD66 is that the public aren’t taking any notice, it’s like Peter crying wolf too many times. We’ve reached the point I think that whatever he does isn’t going to improve the rating of the Tories at the election. It might be hung, it might be Labour, SNP and Lib Dem’s might do well or might not - but what ever else happens the Tories will lose. In fairness to Sunak, I don’t think it’s his fault either, I think Truss finished them off

I totally agree, and I think Sunak knows this too. It’s becoming embarrassing watching him constantly trying to re-invent himself and the party. He really should do us all (himself included) a favour and call a GE. Put us all out of our misery!

MaizieD Thu 16-May-24 14:19:51

I think the biggest problem Sunak has now CvD66 is that the public aren’t taking any notice,

Oh, I don't know, Casdon. I fell about laughing when Sunak said that he was proud of the tories' record in government...

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 16-May-24 14:15:48

I would like to know what you mean though.

zakouma66 Thu 16-May-24 14:15:09

No, its not gossip but never mind.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 16-May-24 13:59:21

zakouma66

With respect GG, that isn't the truth on the ground.

What does ‘the truth on the ground’ mean? Gossip?

petra Thu 16-May-24 13:55:05

the only party capable of defending the country against foreign threats That’s rich coming from a PM who appointed a foreign secretary who was once so far up the backside of the Chinese he nearly disappeared.

Casdon Thu 16-May-24 13:49:52

I think the biggest problem Sunak has now CvD66 is that the public aren’t taking any notice, it’s like Peter crying wolf too many times. We’ve reached the point I think that whatever he does isn’t going to improve the rating of the Tories at the election. It might be hung, it might be Labour, SNP and Lib Dem’s might do well or might not - but what ever else happens the Tories will lose. In fairness to Sunak, I don’t think it’s his fault either, I think Truss finished them off.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 16-May-24 13:37:36

zakouma66

With respect GG, that isn't the truth on the ground.

I will take the word of Johnny Mercer MP, thank you.

keepingquiet Thu 16-May-24 13:35:00

No

zakouma66 Thu 16-May-24 13:33:08

With respect GG, that isn't the truth on the ground.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 16-May-24 13:21:23

zakouma66

Still, he has a nice easy target. The baddies that need to be sent to Rwanda. Amongst their number are Afghan interpreters who were promised safety.

No Afghani’s who worked for or with the U.K. forces inn Afghanistan will be sent to Rwanda.

This has been stated repeatedly by various Government Ministers.

zakouma66 Thu 16-May-24 13:13:15

Still, he has a nice easy target. The baddies that need to be sent to Rwanda. Amongst their number are Afghan interpreters who were promised safety.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 16-May-24 12:57:25

There is a cartoon showing Sunak as “chicken licken” running around in circles screeching “the sky is falling in and we have a plan”😄

CvD66 Thu 16-May-24 12:33:03

This week the PM limply tried to present the Tory party as the only party capable of defending the UK against future foreign threats. After 14 years of collapsing international relations, they have done little to prevent such threats developing, so where’s the evidence they have the wherewithal to build a different future? Within hours of this latest speech, the Tories had a mass breach of personal data! As the party who can’t even stop the little boats bringing refugees into the UK, how can they possibly think we will believe them?