The 7th rebrand in 18 months - is this one any better?

“Where are all those extra teachers going to come from?”

I was answering M0nica who posted the above yesterday at 15.42.
Reply to Germanshepherdsmum

The Conservatives haven’t cut numbers in the armed forces or the police - fewer are willing to join despite recruitment drives. Old prisons and fire stations have closed and new ones have been, and are continuing to be, built. Until all the new prisons are available space has to be found for those given a custodial sentence. Police stations which were little used have been closed - like banks. What makes you think Labour would do anything differently? Talk is cheap.

That brings us neatly back to what this thread was about vegansrock. The rebranding isn’t aimed at Gransnetters with entrenched political views one way or the other, it’s aimed at those who are seen by Sunak as potential Tory voters. Sunak is the one on the back foot, not Starmer, and he has to convince voters that they should vote for him. The political pundits aren’t convinced.

I don’t feel safe with the Tories - they have cut our armed forces to the smallest number for centuries, cut police and prison officer numbers, closed police stations, closed prisons and fire stations. The court system is on its knees and prisoners are being released from their sentences early. How anyone can have confidence in them is laughable

There seem to be a few Labour voters here who swallow the party line hook and sinker.
I’m not one of them.I want them to win the election but have no expectation that things will change for a long time.Small changes yes, but not more as they would need at least two terms in office and that’s not guaranteed.
All this mission driven stuff is just electioneering crap.

I suspect that will change before the election.

Germanshepherdsmum

I have no problem with Hunt or his fiscal policies.

😄😄😄 I’ll trade your gullibility for someone you see as taken in by a Labours supporter’s gullibility.

I just wish he had t frozen the Personal Allowance which is really low now and fiscal drag has many of us ‘borderliners’ now paying tax.

Of course, Labour also say there will have to be ‘some tough spending decisions’. Last time I checked, that was what they called ‘austerity’ when the Conservatives made such decisions.

Germanshepherdsmum

I have picked up on the promise of an additional 40,000 hospital appointments a week and asked where the doctors and nurses are coming from to cover those appointments, throughout the night and throughout weekends. No explanation. I am not stupid.

I gave you the explanation Germanshepherdsmum, it’s quite straightforward.

I have no problem with Hunt or his fiscal policies.

But you have to understand that Hunt didn't enjoy putting up our taxes, he just had to do it. Just like the Walrus didn't enjoy eating the Oysters.…
🤣

I have picked up on the promise of an additional 40,000 hospital appointments a week and asked where the doctors and nurses are coming from to cover those appointments, throughout the night and throughout weekends. No explanation. I am not stupid.

Wyllow3

Googled it, it does happen

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/afghan-pakistan-ministry-of-defence-taliban-b2460115.html

Have read your article.

The U.K. admitted they got it wrong and he is now waiting in Pakistan to come to the U.K.

Urmstongran

Germanshepherdsmum

If I were to say what I think about the six point plan I would be banned. Are people really that gullible?

Probably. 🤣

The question is though, are they more gullible than those who voted Tory in 2019? I suspect probably not.
Time will tell of course. Perhaps we should keep a running tally, trade a lie for a lie and an MP expelled for another, and so on.

Googled it, it does happen

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/afghan-pakistan-ministry-of-defence-taliban-b2460115.html

zakouma66

There is nothing superior about me for sure. I am a member of a human rights organisation and there is more going on than is immediately apparent.

Hope this helps.

Not really to be honest. It’s a bit vague so I’m not sure I believe Afghanistan translators are being shipped out of the UK.
Jonny Mercer says not.

Germanshepherdsmum

If I were to say what I think about the six point plan I would be banned. Are people really that gullible?

Probably. 🤣

There is nothing superior about me for sure. I am a member of a human rights organisation and there is more going on than is immediately apparent.

Hope this helps.

zakouma66

With respect GG, that isn't the truth on the ground.

What does that mean?
Have you got some sort of superior knowledge not available to the rest of us?

labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Mission-Public-Services.pdf

Full LP policy document on NHS/social care.

I don’t think anyone asked where the teachers were coming from, but I asked where the doctors and nurses to cover 40,000 additional hospital appointments per week were coming from.

Regarding, where are the teachers coming from?
The current Government have removed the funding from Teach Now, an organisation that retained people from other industries to become teachers. Maybe reinstating such initiatives would help.
Many of these people already had relevant degrees and people management experience, they were fast tracked in teaching methods.

I was reading the newspaper reports on both leaders “re-launch” this week, and it was remarkable how quickly the focus is now changing to what most people are assuming to be the next government.

Sunak’s current relaunch was made in a small room to a few right wing hacks only.
Starmer’s was made in a hall where he was supported by people from major national businesses, an ex-police commissioner and other notable people.

It is so interesting to see how the zeitgeist is changing, and the focus now on a future with the Labour Party, this includes foreign governments who are quietly in talks with whom they assume is the next government.

All we need now is an election.

A few facts about private schools.
www.pepf.co.uk/fact-finder/facts-and-figures/