Labour. Our next Government.

Why would anyone trust any party to do as they’ve said they will do?
I’m surprised that that anyone still believes any political party at this stage in our lives.

MayBee70

Why can’t we trust Labour to do what they say they will?

I don’t trust any party to do what they say they will. The excuses are always that they can’t, because of the mess left by the previous government, even though they have known about that mess, then there’s the cost which is always more than they thought and then they realise that it’s not as easy to do as it was to say.
I’d love to be wrong on any or all of those things, whenever we have a change of government.

Why can’t we trust Labour to do what they say they will?

What I want from the next government is people who do what they say they will do? If you could only believe what is written in manifestos the choice would be easy. Vote for the party with the most policies you agree with. But it isn’t as simple as that unfortunately. Policies are introduced that were never put to the electorate and governments renege on the policies that we voted on. I am a conservative but I thought Keir Starmer’s six point plan was great. Absolutely nothing there to disagree with. But it just won’t happen. We know we can’t trust Labour to do what they say they will. Can we trust anyone? Might as well stick with the devil I know.

Callistemon21

I'm a floating voter, despite being vilified when I posted that on Gransnet a few years ago. Despite the nastiness I received, I, together with other floating voters, am the voter who will decide on the next Government.

I remain unconvinced by either main party.

Please convince me 🙂

Are you talking about me Callistemon?
I’m floating so high I could touch the clouds, and no, I haven’t been drinking tonight.

I definitely want this dire government out, but have no faith in a Labour government. Keir and his cabinet do not inspire me.
So I have a dilemma.

Elegran

MayBee70

Perhaps it would be a good idea to bring back council housing?It’s a pity that the money gained from Thatchers idea of selling off council houses wasn’t used to build more.

Bring back? I didn't think it had ever gone away. Waiting lists are longer than ever, but council houses still exist.

But are they still being built? Or are they what’s now called social housing.

I don’t think the recent (mostly unelected) Conservative PM’s have stayed as leader for long enough to change their minds about anything.

Casdon

A Labour Government wouldn’t have had to deal with Brexit because there wouldn’t have been a referendum * biglouis*. That would have changed everything.

Blair was planning to hold a referendum.

The public will vote in a referendum on Britain's future in the European Union under plans being finalised by Downing Street.

As the Prime Minister refused to rule out a change of heart on the issue yesterday, senior Whitehall sources told The Observer that a pledge to allow a referendum is likely be contained in the next Labour Party manifesto.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2004/apr/18/uk.eu1

Blair did change his mind frequently, however..

Smileless2012

Is the Official Monster Raving Loony Party still on the go Callistemon?

Oh yes, the quote in my post is from their manifesto, Smileless!

Sometimes I can't tell the difference between them and any of the other parties anyway.

Consider the alternative

LizzieDrip

^I have also said what I think about Labour’s (traditional) desire to punish those who educate their children in independent schools, despite paying the taxes which fund state education^

GSM Labour is not intending to ‘punish’ those who choose to educate their children privately. That is a ridiculous assertion. Labour will merely ensure that private schools pay the VAT that other businesses in the UK have to pay. For too long they have benefitted from unfair tax breaks. A Labour government will not eradicate private education. Of course, private schools will pass on the extra costs of having to pay VAT to the customer - after all, they are businesses. There will still be choice for the consumer. Those who can afford it will buy it; those who can’t won’t. No change there!

Should education of the nation's children, even if private, be subject to VAT?

I don't believe so.

I can't wait to get a Labour gov't in, the last Labour gov't paid people a guaranteed income for 25 yrs if they got solar panels fitted so we did & the scheme has been great, of course Tories got in, cancelled it & gave money for renewable energy to big companies. I want policies which benefit ordinary folks and they come from Labour. Labour started the NHS & they will fix it. I think they are wary of saying too much cos the right wing papers will ridicule anything they say and also they don't know what money there will be, or other restrictive contracts.
I can't wait for a Labour govt.

Cossy

Germanshepherdsmum

It’s a choice. Would you remove choice? The problem children in some state schools prevent the rest from getting a decent education. Who wouldn’t want to remove their child from such an environment?

I agree it’s a choice, but it’s not a choice many people can actually make. What do you mean by “problem” children??

Where do you want me to start?

biglouis

I wonder if a Labour government had to deal with Brexit, the pandemic and the COL crisis in quick succession they would have done any better!

It was a Labour government - that of Blair - which is responsible for the loathed and despised "multi racial society" which I never voted for. Nor was I ever asked to vote for it.

I have voted conservative all my life but am currently a floating voter.

In the 50s I worked in Whitechapel High Street - sometimes eat lunch at BLOOMS Jewish Deli, shopped for groceries from a Turkish Cypriot store - also frequented by Greek Cypriots - worked with Italian and Irish (Southern) girls in BOOTS, and stopped for a coffee occasionally in a glass cup at a cafe run by a Swiss guy.

Tony Blair was probably still at Infants School then.

A Labour Government wouldn’t have had to deal with Brexit because there wouldn’t have been a referendum * biglouis*. That would have changed everything.

I wonder if a Labour government had to deal with Brexit, the pandemic and the COL crisis in quick succession they would have done any better!

It was a Labour government - that of Blair - which is responsible for the loathed and despised "multi racial society" which I never voted for. Nor was I ever asked to vote for it.

I have voted conservative all my life but am currently a floating voter.

It doesn’t matter much what over 65 traditional Tory voters vote though, as it’s not your votes that Labour will be targeting. As a demographic, over 65s are known to be the most set in their voting habits, and most right wing, so not worth the candle. Even in this group though the polls only currently show a 4% Tory bias.

Yes but surely without the right to buy, more would have been available Elegran.

MayBee70

Perhaps it would be a good idea to bring back council housing?It’s a pity that the money gained from Thatchers idea of selling off council houses wasn’t used to build more.

Bring back? I didn't think it had ever gone away. Waiting lists are longer than ever, but council houses still exist.

Replacing all the housing that have historically been lost to rental can't keep up with the increase in the demand. Even without the right to buy, the number needed would have increased with population increase.

I'm glad he's not our accountant.

Did he attend the same maths lessons as Diane Abbot?

It gets worse …
“Starmer’s shadow minister mixes up £8.3bn and £82bn on green investment”.

Steve Reed backtracks after initially agreeing flagship Great British Energy project could cost ten times more than pledge.

Oh dear.
Doesn’t exactly inspire confidence does it?

Actually the current government has permitted councils to retain 100% of the proceeds of right to buy sales.