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Another XL bully death

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Dickens Tue 21-May-24 12:06:20

Iam64

There was an incident in March 2023 when a Welsh farmer shot his 2 XLbullies after they killed 22 of his sheep and injuring another 48.
He admitted in court being in charge of a dangerously out of control dog and being the owner of a dog worrying livestock. He was banned from keeping dogs for 5 years and fined £900 though the incident cost £14,000.
Why a sheep farmer would keep XLbullies remains a question. How he will manage without a sheep herding dog another question

I feel for police having to go into these dangerous situations, then often being criticised if they shoot the dog

Did he use the Bullies as herders, or did they just go for it, so to speak?

They must have really gone on the rampage to kill and injure so many sheep.

It will be difficult for him to herd without a dog - it can be done, but is time consuming and difficult. Maybe he will have to employ someone for the job - if he can find anyone who is an expert in the field - literally.

But why the hell did he keep dogs that were out-of-control? Dangerous dogs are a threat to everyone and anyone. If they had escaped when maybe children were running around somewhere...

And yes, I feel sorry for the police who always come under fire when they do what they have been instructed to do - destroy a dangerous animal. What the heck are they supposed to do instead?

Iam64 Tue 21-May-24 10:21:52

There was an incident in March 2023 when a Welsh farmer shot his 2 XLbullies after they killed 22 of his sheep and injuring another 48.
He admitted in court being in charge of a dangerously out of control dog and being the owner of a dog worrying livestock. He was banned from keeping dogs for 5 years and fined £900 though the incident cost £14,000.
Why a sheep farmer would keep XLbullies remains a question. How he will manage without a sheep herding dog another question

I feel for police having to go into these dangerous situations, then often being criticised if they shoot the dog

Chestnut Tue 21-May-24 10:11:22

We know these creatures have been genetically modified and are unlike other dogs. This latest killing of their owner just proves they are capable of killing anyone.

How many of them get enough exercise to keep them sane? Locked indoors, there is always a chance one or more of them will escape through an open door, race into the street and go for the first child they come across.

They should all be put down, no exceptions. I don't want my grandchildren (or anyone else's) to come across one of these on their way to school.

Dickens Tue 21-May-24 09:57:23

Oreo

When will the owners ever learn?
There was a woman drooling over her X L Bullies on tv a while ago and how they’d never hurt a fly.Yeah, right.

The apparent love and loyalty of Bullie owners for their animals would make an interesting case study for psychologists.

I find it hard to understand their appeal to middle-aged women. They look mostly quite brutal.

And, you're right - my-Bullie-is-a-softie-and-wouldn't-hurt-a-fly... bullies photographed next to new-born babies, oh so adorable, etc.

I wish the whole breed and its offshoots would die out.

It is absurd for a human to predict the behaviour of a pack animal, and arrogant to think you can overcome it.

Primrose53 Tue 21-May-24 09:01:36

Why would anybody even want a killing machine in their home? I believe it’s because they feel they have dominance over these dogs but they don’t. 99 times they may be able to tell them what to do but on the 100th the dog is boss!

Our local newspaper and TV reported on a young woman who needed over 200 stitches after an XL Bully she claims to have taken in attacked her. The daft girl already had one XLB of her own and insisted in the report that she knew what she was doing. Then she claimed when the dog attacked her, her own dog “saved” her! She had to hide in her bathroom and shout until someone heard her. She spent 2 weeks in hospital with serious wounds and the XLB was destroyed but she says she is keeping the other. Imagine living next door to that!

Oreo Tue 21-May-24 08:39:19

When will the owners ever learn?
There was a woman drooling over her X L Bullies on tv a while ago and how they’d never hurt a fly.Yeah, right.

Joseann Tue 21-May-24 08:14:26

Apparently, it's all these Grammaretto.

Grammaretto Tue 21-May-24 07:50:08

I still don't understand why anyone would want an aggressive breed of dog.
Interesting that these bully dogs are banned in France because from my experience of staying in the South of France 20 years ago was seeing big scary dogs guarding properties. They were tied or penned up but still intimidating.

rosie1959 Tue 21-May-24 07:49:53

It is very very unlikely that you will ever see legislation that every dog that looks like an XL bully is put down just for looking a certain way. Who is going to kill all these dogs you won't find many vets prepared to put down a healthy happy dog for no reason apart from its physical attributes.
Track down any illegal breeders make it illegal to adopt a dog from anywhere other that a recognised charity or registered breeder. Enforcement of training courses for any existing owners to ensure they know the breed they are dealing with sometimes they really concentrate on the wrong end of the dig lead.

BlueBelle Tue 21-May-24 07:40:11

Exactly Rosie which just goes to show the rules are useless The lady in question had followed the rules and was still killed by her own dogs proving the rules do not go far enough
There should be no bullies they are not a recognised breed and they should be completely banned Gone, finished
It was the owner killed but it could just have easily been a visitor, a neighbour, a child.
I have seen Bullies out without muzzles since the legislation who is there to enforce it ?? I encounter one on its own luckily it walked straight past me, I ve seen people struggling to control their strength and weight.

You don’t need to legislate about every eventuality, just one.
Bullies and their variants are not allowed

Joseann Tue 21-May-24 07:36:52

I was discussing xlbullies with my friend here in France yesterday. They are ILLEGAL here.

rosie1959 Tue 21-May-24 07:18:00

Unfortunately you can’t legislate about every eventuality. These dogs were owned by the lady and were properly registered and she chose to keep them.

BlueBelle Tue 21-May-24 07:02:39

Yet another owner killed by her two bullies when will this stop ?
Are the new rules working?
I don’t think personally that the new rules are anywhere near hard enough I ve met people out with them off lead or without muzzles since the ban and I believe they would say they aren’t bullies when clearly they are or closely related
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-69041493