Watch the press get their knives out!

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I can well remember the sight of Nick Clegg in the rose garden of No 10 practically jumping up and down standing next to David Cameron because he'd been given the chance to sit at the Prefect's Table and imagine that he had power - not that Cameron and Osborne would REALLY acknowledge the silly little pipsqueak.

Hey Nick! What happened to abolishing university tuition fees? You simply threw the students under a bus didn't you? And re-structuring the Care System? It's like Cameron was working you like a ventriloquists doll.

I don't want to see a repeat of those years, whichever side pulls the most votes!

Exactly. That's why I don't trust the Lib Dems. I hope they never hold the balance of power.

Grantanow

mae13

I can well remember the sight of Nick Clegg in the rose garden of No 10 practically jumping up and down standing next to David Cameron because he'd been given the chance to sit at the Prefect's Table and imagine that he had power - not that Cameron and Osborne would REALLY acknowledge the silly little pipsqueak.

Hey Nick! What happened to abolishing university tuition fees? You simply threw the students under a bus didn't you? And re-structuring the Care System? It's like Cameron was working you like a ventriloquists doll.

I don't want to see a repeat of those years, whichever side pulls the most votes!

Exactly. That's why I don't trust the Lib Dems. I hope they never hold the balance of power.

Like all the parties, the Lib Dem’s now are not the Lib Dem’s of 2010 though - I wonder how many current MPs of theirs were even in parliament then?

Davey served in the coalition government

I know, but he’s one out of how many now?

Don’t know, I do not trust Davey

I think the best governments are ones in which there is a strong opposition.

I agree.

PinkCosmos, I agree about Rishi. It was a very poisoned chalice he took over, and I’m not sure anyone else would have done much better.

IMO at least some of the bile directed at him stems from racism and/or resentment/envy fact that he married an enormous amount of money. He would evidently have done very well for himself without a very rich wife. At least nobody can say he was in it for the money.

And as has been said, his own home background was nothing extra special.

And as has been said, his own home background was nothing extra special.

Solid middle class, Doctor and pharmacist parents with enough money to send him to a very expensive private school?

It's not exactly ordinary, is it?

Are there just too many middle class posters on here to realise that this is just NOT the common experience of most of the working population?

P.S. Sunak isn't wealthy just because of his wife's money. He worked in the finance industry and made a lot of money from the Global Financial Crisis. You know, when governments had to bail out the banks because of their reckless behaviour which threatened to destroy 'ordinary' people's lives...

I do know and the bankers did very well out of it.

Sunak’s background was very middle class. He was born in Southampton. Both parents were professionals. Did he go to school at Winchester College? That is a very expensive school, not a minor, nobody’s ever heard of it, independent school. There’s nothing wrong at all with any of that, but it’s not ordinary. He went to Oxford University and Stanford University. He worked at Goldman Sachs and later at hedge fund firms. He became a millionaire before he married his extremely wealthy wife.

However Starmer lived in leafy Surrey. He was one of four children. His parents were a toolmaker, who worked for himself and therefore owned his own small business, and a nurse. He went to a prestigious grammar school which became independent whilst he was there. The government then paid the fees for children who were already there. He went to Leeds University, and Oxford University. He became a barrister, a QC, now KC, and did well at the bar. He is a millionaire, although that’s not difficult if you’re a barrister and live in London.

Tony Benn owned large London house and country estate, he
willed five million

Not just bankers did well out of the 2008 crash, borrowing rates were stupid before the crash, the best known is Northern Rock lending 125% of value. IFAs arranging self accessed mortgages on very dodgy valuations, it could not last, it was against all prudent banking principles.

My cousin bought a farm at 1/4% over base rate, of 4% over 20 yrs, he still laughs at the bankers, when rates fell he paid 1% or less.

The very old saying applied with serious consequences, “ if you owe £1000 you have a problem, if you owe £1m the bank has a problem, if the bank owes £1 billion the government has a problem - and so it was.

Has anyone seen Rishi's TikTok video trying to sell National Service to the 18+ voters? They showed it on Have I Got News For You. Cringeworthy wasn't the word! He must have lost a fair few young voters if they've seen it. I thought the PM was supposed to have advisors.

Yes, I saw it tonight - oh my goodness, it was a Dad vid.

I had a look at the clip, it’s not going to convince anyone, although it’s a good idea for young people to be more socially responsible it might not reach those that need it most.

As for military service it will appeal to some, I have a niece who was a total tear away, left home at 16 lived rough, then joined the Army at 18, did 2 tours in Iraq (logistics not front line), about to retire after a full career. At 16 the army was the last place you would have thought she would end up, young people change so much as they become adults.