Another Tory MP is leaving, Greg Clark, MP for Tunbridge Wells.
This apparently means a total of 75 Conservative MPs are standing down, which equals the total from the 1997 election.
AIBU to wish toilet cubicles were a decent size.
I am not sure if it will be possible over the next 42 days, but I thought it would be fun to try to see. How the polls perform after the various gaffs that the politicians will inevitably make.
Whilst the gap is huge at the moment, it will almost certainly close as the days go by.
I think I’ll use Politico (poll of polls)
Another Tory MP is leaving, Greg Clark, MP for Tunbridge Wells.
This apparently means a total of 75 Conservative MPs are standing down, which equals the total from the 1997 election.
Well, it would be a chance for Sunak to spell out what his party have achieved over the past 14 years. The only good things I can come up with being gay marriage and a tax on plastic bags.
LizzieDrip
^Starmer is refusing to dance to Sunak’s tune^
Agreed WW. And, Oreo, I’m pleased that KS isn’t a ‘natural showboater’. We’ve had more than enough of them in recent government.
Some showboating and a bit of the old razzle dazzle can be a good thing at election time.
Do you realise that a lot of the general public don’t know a thing about Keir Starmer and a lot don’t even recognise his photo.People watch tv! Debates are a great idea, and would have been a great chance to be in front of big audiences once a week for six weeks and become known to them.
Wyllow3
You are assuming that 6 debates are both necessary and desirable. Why are they?
For the reason I highlight above, tho I know that question wasn’t for me.
Whitewavemark2
Oreo
Whitewavemark2
How can you agree with both me and Casdon on this aspect?
Tbf it was me that agreed with you when you said that Starmer needs to make waves soon and that invisibility won’t cut it.
It won’t.Quite easily. I think that Starmer needs to reach out to the vast majority of voters who take zero interest in politics and will be entirely unaware of Labours plans, hopefully they will be made much clearer in the lead up to the election -thus “the waves” remark
With regard to his character, I want a steady, serious man of integrity and I think I have got that in Starmer, but I do think that this sort of personality does not necessarily gell with the general public,
I agree with you about his character, decent, hardworking and a real family man.
Also that those character virtues don’t always gell with the public cos their window cleaner can be all of that, they want more from a prospective PM.
That’s why he needs to be visible from day one, not later leading up to the GE. From people I talk to socially and at work hardly anyone knows anything about him.
Maybe he needs to have more vocal people from the shadow cabinet around him to help with voter appeal?
Labour has a massive lead in the polls, but when it comes to the election am thinking there will be a real low turn out to vote and split between many parties which could lead to a hung parliament.
More needs to be done, people watch tv and more debates in front of the camera the better.I don’t think that two are enough to get him really recognised.
Craig Mackinlay, the Conservative MP who lost all his limbs to sepsis, will not run for his South Thanet seat in the upcoming general election. I do feel sad for him, because he had hoped to have a phased return, but understandably he says he cannot cope with the campaign at the moment.
You are assuming that 6 debates are both necessary and desirable. Why are they?
12:37Wyllow3
Perhaps protest in China or India then they are the cause of all the world's polutition not the UK. Doesn't everyone care about their children and grandchildren I certainly do, I thought it was a given and you didn't have to explain.
12:32Wyllow3
What's your proof he's not afraid. He afraid all right, he's afraid he won't have pre knowledge of the questions and he can't cope without his script, just my opinion.
Nicenanny3
Wyllow3
Tice intends to increase money in the pot by abolishing Net Zero 2050 agreements, one of the things BJ actually did reasonably well on. Disastrous consequences.
I don't believe in Net Zero, most voters want cheaper energy not silly green policies that cost them money.
I care enough about my grandchildren and their children to want them to have a world actually fit to live in.
Why do you think point scoring macho contests are the best way to get complex policies across, Nicenanny3?
Wyllow3
Tice intends to increase money in the pot by abolishing Net Zero 2050 agreements, one of the things BJ actually did reasonably well on. Disastrous consequences.
I don't believe in Net Zero, most voters want cheaper energy not silly green policies that cost them money.
Nicenanny3
11:17Whitewavemark2
How will he do that if he doesn't appear on the TV?
He will appear on TV. There will be lots of broadcasts in different programmes and interviews.
Nicenanny3
Wyllow3
what we could do without
Why? Starmer is afraid.
Proof he is "afraid" as opposed to not prioritising? Just Sunak game-playing.
11:17Whitewavemark2
How will he do that if he doesn't appear on the TV?
Tice intends to increase money in the pot by abolishing Net Zero 2050 agreements, one of the things BJ actually did reasonably well on. Disastrous consequences.
Wyllow3
what we could do without
Why? Starmer is afraid.
Urmstongran
Shame all the same that Keir Starmer is so bluddy boring to listen to! Once he’s up on his hind legs he just drones on. Ye gods. Beam me up Scottie … 🚀
Well why bother? Your vote is going to Reform I think?
Did you see Tice on Newsnight last night being made mincemeat by whatshername (old age!) . I admired how he kept smiling through gritted teeth😄😮
growstuff
Urmstongran
Analysis for The Telegraph by the polling group More in Common found that if Reform secures 9 per cent of the vote the Conservatives will win 35 fewer seats as a result.
However, if it won 14 per cent, a level at which it has consistently polled in recent months, then the impact would be even starker, costing the Tories 64 MPs.I hope that's persuaded you to vote for Reform
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🤣🤣🤣
Shame all the same that Keir Starmer is so bluddy boring to listen to! Once he’s up on his hind legs he just drones on. Ye gods. Beam me up Scottie … 🚀
Just the beginning of the right wing parts of the media attacks, WWM2.
Starmer is refusing to dance to Sunak’s tune
Agreed WW. And, Oreo, I’m pleased that KS isn’t a ‘natural showboater’. We’ve had more than enough of them in recent government.
Wyllow3
what we could do without
Starmer is refusing to dance to Sunak’s tune
Oreo
Whitewavemark2
How can you agree with both me and Casdon on this aspect?
Tbf it was me that agreed with you when you said that Starmer needs to make waves soon and that invisibility won’t cut it.
It won’t.
Quite easily. I think that Starmer needs to reach out to the vast majority of voters who take zero interest in politics and will be entirely unaware of Labours plans, hopefully they will be made much clearer in the lead up to the election -thus “the waves” remark
With regard to his character, I want a steady, serious man of integrity and I think I have got that in Starmer, but I do think that this sort of personality does not necessarily gell with the general public,
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