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Anybody else who doesn't know who to vote for?

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meddijess Thu 23-May-24 12:07:00

I would not vote Conservative, but I don't trust Labour not to open the floodgates to yet more people who really don't like us and want to do us harm. Who to vote for - any ideas?

Cossy Fri 24-May-24 08:51:06

Nicenanny3

Perhaps 'Better the Devil you Know' is the way to vote. I wouldn't trust Starmer and Labour.

Better the devil you know? Goodness I cannot think of a worse reason to vote Tory! Surely it’s about their policies and manifesto and their record thus far?

Nicenanny3 Fri 24-May-24 08:14:38

Perhaps 'Better the Devil you Know' is the way to vote. I wouldn't trust Starmer and Labour.

Curtaintwitcher Fri 24-May-24 06:33:36

Interesting that so many here are undecided. The reason is obvious....not one of the parties is presenting themselves as a worthwhile choice to run this country.

merlotgran Thu 23-May-24 23:33:50

I know it’s early days but I gather from some conversations that more people than ever are not going to vote unless they are convinced that it’s worth putting their X in a box.

I’ve been a lifelong Tory supporter apart from one election back in the seventies when I voted Labour but when the party I normally support needs a kick up the a**e and the other one doesn’t fill me with confidence, to put it mildly, it feels like I might as well toss a coin.

MayBee70 Thu 23-May-24 23:28:08

Mamardoit

MayBee70

Galaxy

Violence against women is very important to me yes. People have different priorities.
Perhaps you should have asked can people give me some examples that I will approve of.

I must admit that I am on the side of JK Rowling so I can see what you mean. However it isn’t something that would stop me voting Labour.

It's important to me too. Mainly because of the concerns I have for my six granddaughters and the country they are growing up in. I would say I also side with JKR but at the moment it is stopping me voting Labour.

But there are more dangers when it comes to our daughters and granddaughters. It was a Conservative MP that blocked the upskirting bill.
“Theresa May says she is "disappointed" an attempt to make upskirting a criminal offence in England and Wales did not progress through Parliament after one of her own MPs blocked it.
Conservatives have criticised Sir Christopher Chope for objecting to the private member's bill.
If passed, it could see someone who has secretly taken a photo under a victim's skirt face up to two years in prison.
The PM said she wanted to see it pass soon "with government support".
Minister for Women, Victoria Atkins, said the government will allocate time for the bill in Parliament to ensure it does not get pushed down the list of private members' bills, which would mean it could some time to return to the Commons.”
And I’m sure it was Rees Mogg that filibustered to prevent a bill that Jess Phillips was trying to get through parliament to protect women.I’d also be concerned that my granddaughter, when she’s of an age to have children of her own will give birth on a maternity ward that is fit for purpose.

Nannashirlz Thu 23-May-24 23:23:23

I won’t vote for my turn around doesn’t know who a woman is now he does labour opened the floodgates in the first place I’m thinking reform would have been Nigel but he not running grown to like him he speaks the truth but I’m still a starmer sitting on the fence lol

valdali Thu 23-May-24 23:09:50

Where I live is die-hard Tory country, but Lib Dems usually second. If Reform have a candidate here, I'll probably vote Lib Dem & for the first time I'll actually be holding my breath to see if they can win. The last 5 years particularly have been absolutely dire, and surely we've never had a government as reckless with the economy as the conservatives during those 6 short but eventful weeks under Truss.I would rather vote Labour but got to be tactical.

LauraNorderr Thu 23-May-24 22:47:26

Sadly Maddy I think the answer is to vote against the one you least want to see in power.

maddyone Thu 23-May-24 22:33:26

I neither want another Conservative government nor a Labour government, so,where does that leave me?

Mamardoit Thu 23-May-24 22:20:43

MayBee70

Galaxy

Violence against women is very important to me yes. People have different priorities.
Perhaps you should have asked can people give me some examples that I will approve of.

I must admit that I am on the side of JK Rowling so I can see what you mean. However it isn’t something that would stop me voting Labour.

It's important to me too. Mainly because of the concerns I have for my six granddaughters and the country they are growing up in. I would say I also side with JKR but at the moment it is stopping me voting Labour.

Galaxy Thu 23-May-24 22:16:03

Obviously I agree with JKR on most things grin but I meant the debacle over natalie elphicke.

MayBee70 Thu 23-May-24 22:11:41

Galaxy

Violence against women is very important to me yes. People have different priorities.
Perhaps you should have asked can people give me some examples that I will approve of.

I must admit that I am on the side of JK Rowling so I can see what you mean. However it isn’t something that would stop me voting Labour.

Galaxy Thu 23-May-24 22:05:07

Violence against women is very important to me yes. People have different priorities.
Perhaps you should have asked can people give me some examples that I will approve of.

Mamardoit Thu 23-May-24 22:03:27

varian

Look at the situation in your constituency. If you have a Tory MP. look at the party which is the best contender.

It may be the party who came second last time, but also look at council elections. Vote in an informed way to get rid of the Tories.

Until we reform our voting system and become a democracy, we are saddled with the undemocratic FPTP system and need to vote tactically.

Doesn't always work though does it. What about those who voted LibDeb to get rid of the Tories only to find them handing the keys to number 10 to David Cameron. Utterly disgraceful. The ultimate result of that was the Brexit referendum. I will never trust the LibDens again.

Who to vote for in July? Really don't know. I voted Green in the local elections but wouldn't vote for them nationally.

MayBee70 Thu 23-May-24 21:46:20

Greyisnotmycolour

Oh gosh, we can't even edit posts on here. The above post should read Vote Labour. Sorry about my arthritic, fat fingers.

I’m currently applying frozen peas and cream etc to my arthritic knee so I can go out canvassing!

Greyisnotmycolour Thu 23-May-24 21:44:13

Oh gosh, we can't even edit posts on here. The above post should read Vote Labour. Sorry about my arthritic, fat fingers.

Greyisnotmycolour Thu 23-May-24 21:42:17

If you don't want Conservative, you need to vote Ok about. It's that simple.

MayBee70 Thu 23-May-24 21:34:11

And is that one of the most important issues facing the country at this moment in time?

Galaxy Thu 23-May-24 20:31:34

As a labour voter, I would say making fairly dramatic claims about reducing violence against women and girls, and then welcoming a woman who basically said victims of sexual assault are asking for it.

MayBee70 Thu 23-May-24 19:49:08

I don’t understand why people don’t trust Labour and would welcome examples of why people would find them untrustworthy.

MayBee70 Thu 23-May-24 19:41:06

HousePlantQueen

Germanshepherdsmum

Tax is at the current level because of the money spent helping people during covid and the energy price and cost of living increases due to the war in Ukraine vegansrock. Things Labour hasn’t had to deal with, just sit on the sidelines sniping. Now what will they do if saddled with compensation to postmasters and victims of contaminated blood? That hasn’t been priced in as yet (and I trust they would continue funding equipment for the Ukraine).

So, following your argument; if the eye watering costs of compensation for the victims of the blood scandal and the post office are uncosted by Labour and a potential cause of tax rises.....where was Sunak planning on finding the money? By slashing retirement pensions to keep income tax down?

He’s not planning on finding the money because he knows he’ll be gone.

varian Thu 23-May-24 19:36:52

Look at the situation in your constituency. If you have a Tory MP. look at the party which is the best contender.

It may be the party who came second last time, but also look at council elections. Vote in an informed way to get rid of the Tories.

Until we reform our voting system and become a democracy, we are saddled with the undemocratic FPTP system and need to vote tactically.

Lovetopaint037 Thu 23-May-24 19:27:19

We need a change of government.
We need a centralist government.
Only Labour has any chance of offering that.
Now is not the time to be complacent. Vote with intelligence and above all do not have your decision swayed by the media who are are led by those with political bias.
Above all do not allow the extreme right wing to enter our Parliament.

Marthjolly1 Thu 23-May-24 18:58:05

Who to vote for? No faith, no trust in any party. I may or may not see another General Election after this one. My future becomes shorter as each day ends. Maybe there's not much future left for me. But there is a hell of a lot in front of my children and grandchildren. That is where my considerations lie. I shall do my very best to study all parties and hopefully come to a reasonably informed conclusion.

varian Thu 23-May-24 18:48:28

Pittcity

Our local boundaries have changed to remove a labour voting area.
We had a Lib Dem MP who retired and was replaced by a Tory. He is quitting and they've bussed in an out of town celebrity candidate.
I'm also an "anything but Tory" voter. I'm going to read and watch as much as I can and try to make an informed local decision.

I'd love it if we had an alternative to the 2 main parties.

We have more than two parties. Vote LibDem.

If you previously had a LibDem MP there is a good chance you could have another LibDem MP.

The polls between elections always underestimate support for the LibDems who consistently do much better than predicted, in spite of lack of support from partisan media.

In the recent Council elections in England the LibDems came second to Labour, winning more Councillors and more Councils than the Conservatives.