Starmer’s a decent bloke!

Callistemon21

GrannyGravy13

I was born late 50’s I cannot remember a time we didn’t have a telephone nor my grandparents.

You were posh 😁

I didn’t have an indoor toilet or a bathroom till I left home at 17. Mum and dad never had a phone. The only person in our road that owned a car was the local shopkeeper.

Not sure about Starmer. Looks like we'll be having a Labour Government - let's hope they'll do a better job this time. Their policies are very vague and worrying.

Wyllow3

MaizieD

vintageclassics

Shame he fabricates his working class roots - he says his father was a toolmaker - his father actually owned a toolmaking factory. What else isn't quite true?

Shame people repeat completely made up stories.

Starmer's father trained up as a toolmaker as an apprentice then went on to work for himself, just as an expert electrician or other skilled craftsman/woman might as sole trader.

This has been established so many time on other threads!

I know it has. But, no matter how many times a story is proven to be untrue you can bet your life that people will still shamelessly repeat it. 😱

The Debate:

Sunak: I have a plan.
Starmer: 14 years of chaos.

The End.

Looks and sounds like a thoroughly decent,intelligent guy without the desire for 'celebrity status'. Nowt wrong with that

GrannyGravy13

Callistemon21

GrannyGravy13

I was born late 50’s I cannot remember a time we didn’t have a telephone nor my grandparents.

You were posh 😁

🤣🤣🤣

I have been called much worse on the N & P threads…

I don't mind 😁
Some of my best friends at school were posh!

"None of the Above" is just not going to be a choice this time, is it. Although that's how I feel at the moment.

DH listened to Sunak on the lunch-time news who proposes increasing the tax free allowance for pensioners. His comment was "What a load of 🐂💩"

Sunak was addressing a group of mainly younger people who were looking bemused to say the least.

dragonfly46

I am not sure that being a decent bloke necessarily qualifies you to lead the country.

Surely, it ought to count? Hasn't the world as such not far too many politicians who cannot distinguish truth from lies, have no idea of serving their country or anyone except themselves, and who are patently dishonest?

Can you really be surprised that pointing out that a candidate is decent, kindly, hardworking or truthful might just endear him or her to the electorate?

Callistemon21

GrannyGravy13

I was born late 50’s I cannot remember a time we didn’t have a telephone nor my grandparents.

You were posh 😁

🤣🤣🤣

I have been called much worse on the N & P threads…

Yes I'm sure access to a telephone would have meant a public phone box within walking distance. I can remember my dad waiting outside a public telephone box to receive a pre planed call. We've established those figures are consistent with the USA census of 1960, not the UK, and would refer to private home phones.

All irrelevant as to how good a PM Starmer will be after July 4th. I hope and believe he could be, despite my misgivings over the way he's treated Rosie Duffield, where I seem to be alone in thinking it's been disgraceful.

Oh I shall look forward to a debate between the two.

GrannyGravy13

I was born late 50’s I cannot remember a time we didn’t have a telephone nor my grandparents.

You were posh 😁

maddyone

Oreo

I wish all electioneering didn’t include sob stories about who has the most poor backgrounds.Y’know what? It doesn’t matter one bit, we just need a good decent strong PM who’s keen to do the job and the best for us all in the UK.It’s down to policies and not the person as I believe Sunak to have all those attributes as well as Starmer.

👏👏👏

Indeed. 👍

And next week Sunak & Starmer have agreed to their first tv debate.

Pull up a chair and pass the popcorn.

My friends partner owns a maintenence company.
He is the only one working in it, though.

GrannyGravy13

I was born late 50’s I cannot remember a time we didn’t have a telephone nor my grandparents.

we always had a telephone with a very nosy partyline neighbour..

MaizieD

vintageclassics

Shame he fabricates his working class roots - he says his father was a toolmaker - his father actually owned a toolmaking factory. What else isn't quite true?

Shame people repeat completely made up stories.

Starmer's father trained up as a toolmaker as an apprentice then went on to work for himself, just as an expert electrician or other skilled craftsman/woman might as sole trader.

This has been established so many time on other threads!

I really think the days of children/teens being glued to their phones are done with.

The novelty has worn off that one, some time ago.

At least in my home.

Mamardoit

Rosie51

Casdon

By 1960 only one in five households didn’t have access to a telephone Plunger, it certainly wasn’t a luxury. That comes from the Census.

These attempts to discredit Starmer are now entering into the world of fiction, Gransnet could launch its own conspiracy theory company at this rate. At the end of it, it boils down to the fact, unpalatable though it is for some, that he was a very gifted boy from an ordinary family, who made good.

Are you sure about those figures? I only knew three families that had private telephones in 1960, two were friends the other was a relative and it was really a business line that they could make private paid for calls from. Mostly we used public phone boxes and were fortunate to have one a two minute walk away. By the end of the 60s I knew a lot more people with a private telephone. Was my childhood in 1960 really so deprived that we were wildly out of step with the norm?

Yes I'm sure access to a telephone would have meant a public phone box within walking distance. I can remember my dad waiting outside a public telephone box to receive a pre planed call.

My ambition when I was about 12 or 13 was to one day earn enough to have a car, a telephone and a detached house 😁

Trekking down the road to the phone box in the rain with 4d in my pocket got a bit wearisome.

At least we made plans to meet up with our friends in advance instead of constantly peering at mobiles, watching what everyone is doing.

vintageclassics

Shame he fabricates his working class roots - he says his father was a toolmaker - his father actually owned a toolmaking factory. What else isn't quite true?

Shame people repeat completely made up stories.

No, his father was someone who worked for himself.
We've established that,

Then Starmer worked with his dad, which is quite normal.

Shame he fabricates his working class roots - he says his father was a toolmaker - his father actually owned a toolmaking factory. What else isn't quite true?

Rosie51

Casdon

By 1960 only one in five households didn’t have access to a telephone Plunger, it certainly wasn’t a luxury. That comes from the Census.

These attempts to discredit Starmer are now entering into the world of fiction, Gransnet could launch its own conspiracy theory company at this rate. At the end of it, it boils down to the fact, unpalatable though it is for some, that he was a very gifted boy from an ordinary family, who made good.

Are you sure about those figures? I only knew three families that had private telephones in 1960, two were friends the other was a relative and it was really a business line that they could make private paid for calls from. Mostly we used public phone boxes and were fortunate to have one a two minute walk away. By the end of the 60s I knew a lot more people with a private telephone. Was my childhood in 1960 really so deprived that we were wildly out of step with the norm?

Yes I'm sure access to a telephone would have meant a public phone box within walking distance. I can remember my dad waiting outside a public telephone box to receive a pre planed call.

My dad was in CID we always lived in police accommodation. Police weren’t allowed to buy a house until the late 1970’s
We had a phone in the houses from 1960

Fascinating..

This thread is beginning to sound like the Four Yorkshiremen
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKHFZBUTA4k

When did Starmer say that they had a home phone in 1960? He wasn't even born until 1962

I don’t see what second hand cars have got to do with anything.