Starmer’s a decent bloke!

Oreo

I wish all electioneering didn’t include sob stories about who has the most poor backgrounds.Y’know what? It doesn’t matter one bit, we just need a good decent strong PM who’s keen to do the job and the best for us all in the UK.It’s down to policies and not the person as I believe Sunak to have all those attributes as well as Starmer.

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We lived in police accommodation from 1968 - 1978 , no telephone, my husband was in CID, if he was wanted when off duty someone from the station would come to our house.

Starmer is a very decent person and I think he would do a good job of running the country. Th Tories have brought the UK to its knees and messed it up completely, imo.

Would I buy a secondhand hand car from Starmer? Yes I would.
Would I have bought one from Johnson? Not on your Nelly.
Would I buy one from Rishi? Not sure about that.
Will I vote Tory. No.

I was born late 50’s I cannot remember a time we didn’t have a telephone nor my grandparents.

hansard.parliament.uk/Lords/1961-02-01/debates/331800fd-a3db-497c-83f2-f68e9e87f25c/ThePostOfficeTelephoneService
Maybe you are right Rosie51, I couldn’t find it. Nerds like me will enjoy this regardless. Access to private telephones in the early 1960s was governed by whether you could be supplied with one by the Post Office as much as whether you could afford one, and telephones were being installed at the rate of 450,000 a year, so they were certainly no longer only the province of the wealthy. We had a home phone then, and my nana had a party line installed in 1961 when my sister was born, I think that was how many mitigated the costs. The Lords could be talking about now, the details have changed but not the frustrations.

I wish all electioneering didn’t include sob stories about who has the most poor backgrounds.Y’know what? It doesn’t matter one bit, we just need a good decent strong PM who’s keen to do the job and the best for us all in the UK.It’s down to policies and not the person as I believe Sunak to have all those attributes as well as Starmer.

Casdon

By 1960 only one in five households didn’t have access to a telephone Plunger, it certainly wasn’t a luxury. That comes from the Census.

These attempts to discredit Starmer are now entering into the world of fiction, Gransnet could launch its own conspiracy theory company at this rate. At the end of it, it boils down to the fact, unpalatable though it is for some, that he was a very gifted boy from an ordinary family, who made good.

What Census was this?
I was born in the 60’s and as I grew up I didn’t know anyone at all who had a phone.Dad had one put in around 1975.

The best we can do is elect trustworthy good wise people - not for headline policies but for them to work hard to make the best of inheriting a country wrecked by the Tories plus Brexit (a Tory error) and Covid. Everything I have read or heard about Keir Starmer makes me think he will work as hard as he can and as wisely as he can. Met him once, friend worked with him for a while. Solid sort. No more grandstanding entitled egos like Johnson or maybe well intentioned (or sometimes not) but out of touch millionaires and billionaires. Or plain deluded like Liz Truss. I can only keep my fingers crossed

Are the people on this site actually aware of what is happening in the world?

No ‘decent bloke’ would support the starvation and be complicit in the genocide of thousands of men, women and children by Israel.

The Conservatives have without doubt searched far and wide - and deep - to find some dirt on Starmer. Their failure surely should give us some indication of what a decent bloke Starmer is.
His solid record of public service as DPP tells you he's capable of taking responsibility.

I watched Sunak faking it this morning at a pottery in Stoke on Trent. The faces of the conscripted audience said it all.
Sunak knows he cannot win this election. He is in an unusual position of being able to promise and pledge anything that comes into his head, knowing full well he will never have to deliver on any of it.

icanhandthemback

Plunger

Can Starmer cut the sob story about his poor background! My brother was a toolmaker and my sister a nurse. They were all around the same age as his parents and neither were on the breadline. Lived in the SE of England. Sister was a divorced single parent. Anyone who could afford a home telephone in the 50s or 60s was not hard up. They were considered a luxury. Even I didn't have one until the middle 70s.

I just thought he’d morphed into victim mode. It was like watching someone on Strictly or the X-factor. . I am very wary of him. He has a history of being very left wing only appearing to be transforming for electability.

He has a history of being very left wing only appearing to be transforming for electability

No, I've been in the LP throughout and he has never been very left wing. Thats not to say he hasn't changed any announcements on policy - they change over time and do for all politicians depending on the given political circumstances.

Casdon

Rosie51

Plunger if you look at my post of 11.56 I believe I've solved it, Casdon was using A USA government census which did mean home phones.

No, it was UK. I did misinterpret it though - it said access to a telephone, not own a telephone in the census. That I think on reflection means a neighbour or public phone box within easy access.

And yet your phrasing was identical to that from the USA census? How strange. Can you link to your source please as I'm interested to see it? Thanks.

Plunger

Casdon

By 1960 only one in five households didn’t have access to a telephone Plunger, it certainly wasn’t a luxury. That comes from the Census.

These attempts to discredit Starmer are now entering into the world of fiction, Gransnet could launch its own conspiracy theory company at this rate. At the end of it, it boils down to the fact, unpalatable though it is for some, that he was a very gifted boy from an ordinary family, who made good.

Access to a telephone does not equate to a home telephone. There were red phone boxes everywhere which were the only access the majority had. People would actually call the box and ask for someone to fetch whoever from their home. Did it many times.
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We had a home phone in the 1960’s. Left by the person before.

It was left connected, but we weren’t allowed to make outgoing calls,🙄

Rosie51

Plunger if you look at my post of 11.56 I believe I've solved it, Casdon was using A USA government census which did mean home phones.

No, it was UK. I did misinterpret it though - it said access to a telephone, not own a telephone in the census. That I think on reflection means a neighbour or public phone box within easy access.

Surely we need an intelligent person with the right policies.?

Plunger

Can Starmer cut the sob story about his poor background! My brother was a toolmaker and my sister a nurse. They were all around the same age as his parents and neither were on the breadline. Lived in the SE of England. Sister was a divorced single parent. Anyone who could afford a home telephone in the 50s or 60s was not hard up. They were considered a luxury. Even I didn't have one until the middle 70s.

I just thought he’d morphed into victim mode. It was like watching someone on Strictly or the X-factor. . I am very wary of him. He has a history of being very left wing only appearing to be transforming for electability.

MissAdventure

Oh yes, I agree with righting written wrongs (try saying that five times, quickly!)

Blimey you've coined a new tongue-twister 🤣🤣

Decency is NOT a description I could apply to Mr Sunak. His announcement of the date of the General Election mostly concentrated of snide, cheap, whining, peevish and nasty shots at Keir Starmer and the Opposition.

For all his millions he hasn't learnt how to be a gentleman.

Buy youself a copy of Debrett's, Rishi.

Casdon

By 1960 only one in five households didn’t have access to a telephone Plunger, it certainly wasn’t a luxury. That comes from the Census.

These attempts to discredit Starmer are now entering into the world of fiction, Gransnet could launch its own conspiracy theory company at this rate. At the end of it, it boils down to the fact, unpalatable though it is for some, that he was a very gifted boy from an ordinary family, who made good.

Exactly this
He achieved on his own merits and hard work.

Oh yes, I agree with righting written wrongs (try saying that five times, quickly!)

MissAdventure

What has any of this to do with Starmer?

Probably nothing MissAdventure but glaring statistical inaccuracies need addressing, even when they're largely irrelevant If we can't trust figures that are posted then........

Plunger if you look at my post of 11.56 I believe I've solved it, Casdon was using A USA government census which did mean home phones.