Rayner cleared.

I dont hold it against her but I am certainly not giving a moments thought to the possible hurt feelings of someone in the porn industry.

I’m not defending porn - I don’t watch it or like it.

But, Only Fans is not really like the old style porn and sex industry. It’s purely voluntary, and people, of all sorts, seem to do various things on it.

No pimps, no exploitation, from what I know of it.

But, regardless, Rayner’s son and DIL are adults. You only need to read a few threads on GN to know that most older parents have little or no say in what their adult children do or say.

So, I wouldn’t hold this against her.🤷‍♀️

and then there is Only Fans

Porn is vile and frequently abusive, I a not cheering it on for any political party. I actually think those who describe it as work are complicit in legitimising the harm it does.

Doodledog not sure where your argument is taking you. As sure as light is day, Prince Andrew has been excluded from public life. Some kind of minimal standards on public life are very loosely applied still .
No one is decrying AR for her son whatever that means.

This thread has made an interesting read

Quite. And are those who decry AR lining up to criticise the late Queen for not disowning Prince Andrew?

Has AR commented on any of this?

I so remember the mother of Dennis Nilsen, serial killer and
Necrophile , she traveled from Scotland every month to visit him, she was asked why visit such a man? Her reply?
He is my son.

ronib I would ask my son not to profit from porn whether I were running for office or not, but that's not the point. I don't know anything about the son's politics - is he left wing?

I'm not defending him. I don't like the porn industry at all. I'm not sure where it sits on the left/right political axis though - perhaps you can explain that one?

My point is simple. He is not Angela Rayner. Whether he is a serial killer or a saint is nothing to do with her.

Yup definitely the front bench in the House of Commons all need to wear trousers….

" cross your legs" ?

Doodledog my take on this is that politicians are people in authority and with some degree of power. If I was running for office, I would beg my son to take down his porn site before it was discovered. Although I have to say that for the left wing, porn does seem a strange career choice but I expect it pays well. It doesn’t create a favourable impression in the more fuddy duddy voting population who crave normality and cross your legs Rayner is not filling that role. Role models…..

And not swigging bottles of wine every evening.

Agree, and a kind , gentle man with a good sense of humour

I think Gordon Brown is a man of principal and decency.

A human being with some backbone and morality.

ronib

Quite agree that it is not AR’s fault that her immediate family are actively involved in the sex industry but doesn’t say much for that family’s political judgment or perhaps this is the sort of publicity AR wants?

Can you explain what her son’s involvement in porn says about the family’s political judgment? Do families have collective politics? Mine doesn’t. My mum and sister are Tories, and at least one family member is reputed to vote Lib Dem😲. Democracy, eh?

Keir Starmer, Gordon Brown, Harriett Harman, Neil Kinnock,

I'm afraid decency and integrity have left the building long ago.

Nye Bevan, John Smith and so on. A bygone era. Mo Mowlan.

Although I are say somebody will point out some failings on their part.

A member of my family votes conservative, seems this affects my political judgment !

If Angela Rayner thinks that’s the end of it she is very much mistaken. The neighbours are still insisting she is lying. The truth will out eventually.

I guess she will be needing time to think about something else. Like her scummy son and DIL. 😝

Quite agree that it is not AR’s fault that her immediate family are actively involved in the sex industry but doesn’t say much for that family’s political judgment or perhaps this is the sort of publicity AR wants?

Nicenanny3

ronib

CasdonDiane Abbott has very sadly had a very difficult time with her son which was published at the time.
I remember a very active press on Jonathan Aitken’s family life. The Blair and Cameron families have all had mention in the media.
I think that if any other politician’s children were porn stars, the media would be all over it.

I agree if it was one of Nigel Farage's offspring the left would have been all over it.

I have no interest in the activities of the adult children of any MPs. Do you not see that following gossip says more about you than it does about the MP, whoever it is? Why can we not have any political debate without these inane posts?

Well it is an honest living on which they will pay tax - it is classed as a service.

Can’t say the same about every MP.

Quote Nicenanny3 Thu 30-May-24 08:37:35
It's not a porn site it's Guido Fawkes on YouTube telling his readers about the site that Rayners son is on and no nor have I looked at a porn site perish the thought no thanks.

I will have to accept your word, I have never seen or looked for
a porn site

Interestingly Sunak paid a 5 minute visit to Honiton yesterday.

Honiton you might recall has always been a very safe Tory seat, but is no longer.

Can anyone remember why?

It is because the sitting Tory MP was given the sack whilst watching PORN - oops sorry - I meant tractors - whilst sitting on the back benches.

Perhaps it was master Rayner he was drooling over.