Diane Abbott to be banned from standing for Labour.

“It is true that many types of white people with points of difference, such as redheads, can experience this prejudice. But they are not all their lives subject to racism. In pre-civil rights America, Irish people, Jewish people and Travellers were not required to sit at the back of the bus"

Isn't this how we have got ourselves in the appalling mess?

My hurt is worse than your hurt?

The drama triangle.

No, Jews didn’t have to sit in the back of buses, they were driven out of Russia because they were Jews. Obviously she
hasn’t heard of Progroms

Looks like its in Abbots hands to decide on next move
(I player live update)

"16:29
Shadow minister asked if he wants Diane Abbott to run for Labour
Here's a bit more from that Labour news conference we mentioned in our earlier post.

In the Q&A section afterwards, a reporter asks shadow minister Darren Jones whether he wants to see veteran MP Diane Abbott running for Labour at the general election.

"Diane has had the whip restored, she's a member of the parliamentary party again," Jones says. "If she wants to talk to the Labour Party about standing at the next election, I'm sure that conversation will be taking place."

She,said that because Jewish people weren't made to sit at the back of buses, it somehow,wasn't such bad racism they faced.

Idoitic statement.

Very very complex and emotive subject all round. But she doesn't appear to minimize anything to me?

" The Jewish Experience"
Look at the genocide now in Gaza.

I'm not anti anything .

She did minimise the Jewish experience! ! ! !

Minimising the Holocaust

Not trying to provoke a fight, but I genuinely see her point in her letter. It seemed quite alright to me?

I'm glad you said that, zakouma66. I don't feel quite so isolated.

As I posted earlier, I don't think she said anything anti-semitic, which is what she was (and still is on here) castigated for. She did minimise the Jewish experience, though, which I can see was hurtful. Racism is racism, I don't think there is a hierarchy if racism. It's all bad.

Not trying to provoke a fight, but I genuinely see her point in her letter. It seemed quite alright to me?

As a person, I'm ambivalent about her. She seems unwell in some way.
The fact that she was in a relationship with JC and sent her child to public school are 2 separate issues.
I do recall she was attacked for having a small can of drink containing alcohol.

But, now, she’s either confused or she’s trying to disrupt the Labour campaign

Agreed DiamondLily. If it’s the former, I feel for her; if it’s the latter I have no respect for her. We don’t know which it is and, maybe, we’ll never know.

Anniebach

Respect? does he mean her letter about Jews should have been
ignored

No, obviously not.

But, racism comes in all forms.🙂

Respect? does he mean her letter about Jews should have been
ignored

Back in the day, she WAS a trailblazer. She withstood a huge amount of racism.

Kudos to her.

But, now, she’s either confused or she’s trying to disrupt the Labour campaign.

She’s got a huge majority, so obviously a good local MP, so she could, as Corbyn is doing, and stand as an independent.

Sadiq Khan has said that Diane Abbott should be treated with “the respect she deserves” amid growing backlash against Labour’s handling of her case.

The Mayor of London told the Evening Standard Ms Abbott was a “trailblazer” and recalled how seeing her in 1987 “made a huge impact on me in a positive sense of the word”.

Mr Khan added: “She’s someone who’s done a huge amount for Hackney, for London, for our country. So I think it’s really important that she’s given the respect she deserves.”

Urmstongran

I think the odd shoes thing was proven to be a ‘meme’ ie false?

I don’t know. I’ve looked at links from that time, and no one suggested it was fake.

Who knows?

I think the odd shoes thing was proven to be a ‘meme’ ie false?

During the last election, when Corbyn was leader, she made mistakes, about facts, at most interviews. She went out wearing odd shoes, and blamed the menopause (at 65?), so I’m not sure if she has not got a genuine problem.

Perhaps, as she’s now 70, it’s time for her to retire and perhaps write her memoirs, or whatever.

She’s not bringing anything to Labour’s chances.😗

The truth is , no decision has yet been made

Absolutely Anniebach, and I wish DA would just say that rather than tweeting one thing, texting something else etc. It’s not very edifying on her part.

I still wonder if she thought that the whip being returned meant she’d resume her position as standing MP candidate but when it emerged it didn’t mean that ….

Well I said Marmite because she is such a divisive figure. Her constituents love her. I’m not a fan but can recognise her popularity with some.

The truth is , no decision has yet been made

LizzieDrip

There appears to be some real ‘confusion’ around this issue. Times say she’s banned; BBC says it’s received text from Abbot saying she’s banned; X post from Abbot saying she’ll be campaigning for a Labour victory and is not banned. The ‘rumour mill’ is alive and well. When the truth does eventually emerge, I trust the media outlets that are currently conveying incorrect information (what used to be known as lies) will apologise??? I won’t hold my breath!

If DA just told the truth we would know.

So do I, tho it won’t spread like it used to on my toast, I blame
Brexit/Boris/Corbyn/Aliens.
🤭

Yes, I love marmite

I think yiur3 being kind bringing Marmite into this urmstongran

Ponder on this … we might like to recall that Abbott was never given a ministerial portfolio by Labour in their 13 years in office, though her ex-boyfriend Corbyn during his ludicrous tenure of the Party leadership in opposition made her his Shadow Home Secretary - a position for which she had zero credentials.

I think she’s a Marmite figure to be honest.