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Diane Abbott to be banned from standing for Labour.

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Urmstongran Tue 28-May-24 18:22:41

Breaking news, just now.

Devorgilla Sat 01-Jun-24 10:10:29

As I understand it, it is the NEC who make the decisions on these matters in Labour. Quite rightly the leader and MPs are not involved. That would be like a Judge sitting in on the jurors' discussions and directing them to a particular verdict. KS is an honest, decent man and an intelligent one, very highly spoken of and thought of in his previous profession and it would have been sheer stupidity on his part to lie in front of cameras. He has my vote.
DA can stand, probably will stand. If elected, she can stand down on grounds of ill health with total dignity in a couple of years time.

Urmstongran Sat 01-Jun-24 09:22:24

Today’s Telegraph:

“ Instead, Sir Keir looks first ungracious, even vindictive, and then weak. He showed a want of diplomatic skills and took refuge in process (“We must wait for the NEC’s decision”), which never works in the heat of an election campaign. ”

eazybee Sat 01-Jun-24 08:55:48

I agree with you, Maddyone, and I fear she will go on to cause more trouble.
You would think Labour would see how the Conservatives have brought themselves down by their ceaseless infighting but it seems they are intent on following the same path.

maddyone Sat 01-Jun-24 08:40:33

As I’ve said before, I think Diane Abbott is unwell, and as a consequence, I think she would be unwise to stand for election. However my guess is that she will stand.

Anniebach Sat 01-Jun-24 08:39:51

The media want to speak of a split, happens every election

maddyone Sat 01-Jun-24 08:38:53

I think both Starmer and Diane Abbott were playing a game. She was stirring the pot to see what would happen. He was watching the reactions, especially of the public, to see which way to jump. He judged, probably correctly, to take the wind out of her sails and announce that she is free to stand. He initially said we wouldn’t know until Tuesday, when some committee (can’t remember the name) has met and he implied they would decide. However I think he has played it correctly. He has closed down the growing media circus over this and left her to decide.

Iam64 Sat 01-Jun-24 08:29:57

It’s nonsense to suggest ‘the left’ bullied Starmer into ‘flip flopping’. The tories really are desperate

Parsley3 Sat 01-Jun-24 08:04:45

I hope that whoever has the final say in who stands for this seat will be putting competence over ideology. If Diane is becoming frail, then I hope that she does the same and doesn't push on at a cost to her wellbeing.

Calendargirl Sat 01-Jun-24 07:40:23

RosiesMaw

I have just seen Diane Abbott on the BBC news and I wonder whether she might have Parkinson’s?
Her hands were shaking and her face looked very frail and vulnerable.
I remember my Mum with that look.

I felt the same. And she seemed to be relying on others to guide her round. It made her look extremely vulnerable.

Anniebach Fri 31-May-24 23:58:19

Next instalment yet to come

maddyone Fri 31-May-24 23:48:41

Or was it? Is the next instalment yet to come?

maddyone Fri 31-May-24 23:48:09

Ah well, it was all a storm in a teacup.

Wyllow3 Fri 31-May-24 22:56:36

Several people have asked that - I really hope she is not pushing herself if really ill.

RosiesMaw Fri 31-May-24 22:31:39

I have just seen Diane Abbott on the BBC news and I wonder whether she might have Parkinson’s?
Her hands were shaking and her face looked very frail and vulnerable.
I remember my Mum with that look.

Wyllow3 Fri 31-May-24 22:06:52

LizzieDrip

Sky News are doing their best to keep this media-led issue alive. They are suggesting a rift between KS & AR. It’s rubbish! When AR commented about DA she had obviously spoken with KS first, and they were in agreement. But Sky News just can’t let it go. They just can’t say ‘the issue has been resolved’. I’ve never seen such biased reporting. Yesterday a Tory MP stood down and said he was joining the LP. Are Sky still talking about that - no! Today they’ve given Sunak and another Tory MP (didn’t catch his name) a platform to talk about DA and how ‘it’s weakened Starmer’! Why? Oh, that’ll be to support the Tories and to beat Labour. I always said KS would have a mountain to climb against the right wing media - it’s very, very unpalatable! I’ve turned Sky News off and won’t be watching it againangry

Its James Cleverly

"Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer was "bullied" into allowing the veteran left-wing MP Diane Abbott stand for the party by his deputy, Angela Rayner.

He has accuses Starmer of "flip-flopping" and "U-turning" over whether Abbott should be allowed as a Labour candidate"

As per conservative plan - attack left whenever possible use right wing MSM.

Splits?
Ignore the fact there is a massive split in the right and Reform could take huge chunks of Conservatives votes effectively splitting the vote allowing other parties in and the Conservatives, unless they can come to terms with Reform will never be able to gain power again until its resolved.

LizzieDrip Fri 31-May-24 21:51:49

Iam you can say that again🙈

Iam64 Fri 31-May-24 21:15:17

Galaxy 🤙. I’ve just heard some of Trump’s press conference. He’s deranged and dangerous. If Diane Abbot I’m, Starmer and Rayner are our most threatening politicians, we can relax

Galaxy Fri 31-May-24 20:54:57

Having some posters be irritated and having some posters who think you are great is the perfect balance in my opinion Iam64wink

LizzieDrip Fri 31-May-24 20:44:29

Iam flowers yes, let’s hope so!

Iam64 Fri 31-May-24 20:28:34

Do you think I’m calm LizzieDrip?b often I’m Very Cross and don’t feel wise.
It’s clear I irritate some posters - that’s life init.
Here’s hoping we have a Starmer led Labour government. We have sone good MP’s -

LizzieDrip Fri 31-May-24 20:11:49

Iam can I ask you a ‘personal’ question? How do you stay so calm - your posts are always so wise and measured. I get so cross about it all - wish I didn’t reallyconfused

Iam64 Fri 31-May-24 20:05:54

There will Annie.
You’re correct about the right wing media LizzieDrip, every Labour leader gets it.
The mp who stood down and joined Labour is Mark Logan, Bolton north east, his majority is 400. Even the tories complained he was invisible

LizzieDrip Fri 31-May-24 20:03:45

I agree with your two posts above Iam👏👏👏

Anniebach Fri 31-May-24 19:51:57

Yes, Iam, there will be much more to come

LizzieDrip Fri 31-May-24 19:51:45

Sky News are doing their best to keep this media-led issue alive. They are suggesting a rift between KS & AR. It’s rubbish! When AR commented about DA she had obviously spoken with KS first, and they were in agreement. But Sky News just can’t let it go. They just can’t say ‘the issue has been resolved’. I’ve never seen such biased reporting. Yesterday a Tory MP stood down and said he was joining the LP. Are Sky still talking about that - no! Today they’ve given Sunak and another Tory MP (didn’t catch his name) a platform to talk about DA and how ‘it’s weakened Starmer’! Why? Oh, that’ll be to support the Tories and to beat Labour. I always said KS would have a mountain to climb against the right wing media - it’s very, very unpalatable! I’ve turned Sky News off and won’t be watching it againangry