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Diane Abbott to be banned from standing for Labour.

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Urmstongran Tue 28-May-24 18:22:41

Breaking news, just now.

Galaxy Fri 31-May-24 17:02:35

They dont have any power, one glance at what is going on with the NEC and selection for seats shows the power now lies with the centrists. Glorianny is right with her analysis and I say that as a centrist.

Anniebach Fri 31-May-24 16:47:32

Abbott and momentum have 5 weeks to display more drama

LizzieDrip Fri 31-May-24 16:41:29

Spot on DiamondLily👏👏👏

DiamondLily Fri 31-May-24 16:30:24

Good. So, Abbott can stand, and she will win or lose by the vote.

No more drama needed from her.🙂

LizzieDrip Fri 31-May-24 16:21:12

I expect you’d think Starmer was lying if he said he was a man and had two arms Glorianny. On this occasion, I think Diane Abbott was bending the truth, and that’s not saying I don’t feel sorry for the position in which she found herself. I feel more sorry for her now, because I think she’s ended up where she didn’t want to be. Time will tell what happens next

Hear, hear Casdon.

Casdon Fri 31-May-24 16:03:06

I expect you’d think Starmer was lying if he said he was a man and had two arms Glorianny. On this occasion, I think Diane Abbott was bending the truth, and that’s not saying I don’t feel sorry for the position in which she found herself. I feel more sorry for her now, because I think she’s ended up where she didn’t want to be. Time will tell what happens next.

Glorianny Fri 31-May-24 15:58:16

Casdon

Glorianny

DiamondLily

The NEC need to make a decision, which hasn’t been done. So, it was and is unresolved.

Abbott saying she had been banned was inaccurate.

Whether she was genuinely confused, or whether it was just disruption, is unclear.

So on Friday 24th Sir Keir Starmer was saying the question of her reinstatement was "unresolved". On 28th a news story appears in the Times and the whip was restored. Now who is confused?

Starmer was talking about the whip being restored, not her standing as an MP at the next election.

I’m sure that Labour were caught on the hop, nobody was expecting the election. I’m still waiting to find out from any media source what’s happening with the other MPs who have had the whip removed and whose cases are still under investigation. She is the most high profile, but not the only one.

If the whip had not been restored she would have had to stand as the Independent she was classed as until 28th May.

Strange it happened on the same day the story appeared in the paper isn't it. Especially as she had completed the assigned education course by the end of February.
And yet Starmer thought the issue "unresolved" on 24th.

LizzieDrip Fri 31-May-24 14:26:10

Hallelujah! Now all the client journalists who’ve been reporting it as ‘fact’ that DA is barred will have egg on their faces.

Note to Ms Abbot et al … just because something is stated as a fact on front page of The Times, doesn’t mean it’s true!

Perhaps the title of this thread should be ammemded!

Anniebach Fri 31-May-24 14:22:14

Agree MayBee

MayBee70 Fri 31-May-24 14:19:49

Anniebach

1. Readmitting into Labour Party - completed

2. Selection for candidate for general election - decision awaited

Problem now resolved. Quickly and sensibly. Which is how the country will be run when we have a Labour government.

Wyllow3 Fri 31-May-24 14:11:00

Yes, up on I player

"Abbott will be Labour's candidate in Hackney - party source
In the last few minutes, we've heard Labour leader Keir Starmer say Diane Abbott is "free to go forward" as a Labour candidate.

A senior Labour source has clarified that this means Abbott will be Labour's candidate in the constituency of Hackney North and Stoke Newington."

Parsley3 Fri 31-May-24 14:04:22

The decision is made and it seems that she is free to stand after all.

Anniebach Fri 31-May-24 14:04:04

33 Labour MP’s are retiring, 33 suitable candidates to be cleared

DiamondLily Fri 31-May-24 13:28:12

She is a member of the PLP, as whip is restored.

No decision has been made as to whether the Labour party want her as their candidate.

That is unresolved. She isn’t banned, she’s awaiting a decision.

Casdon Fri 31-May-24 13:25:23

Glorianny

DiamondLily

The NEC need to make a decision, which hasn’t been done. So, it was and is unresolved.

Abbott saying she had been banned was inaccurate.

Whether she was genuinely confused, or whether it was just disruption, is unclear.

So on Friday 24th Sir Keir Starmer was saying the question of her reinstatement was "unresolved". On 28th a news story appears in the Times and the whip was restored. Now who is confused?

Starmer was talking about the whip being restored, not her standing as an MP at the next election.

I’m sure that Labour were caught on the hop, nobody was expecting the election. I’m still waiting to find out from any media source what’s happening with the other MPs who have had the whip removed and whose cases are still under investigation. She is the most high profile, but not the only one.

Anniebach Fri 31-May-24 13:25:13

1. Readmitting into Labour Party - completed

2. Selection for candidate for general election - decision awaited

Anniebach Fri 31-May-24 13:22:21

Has not been said the NEC have until 5th June, they are too sensible to rush a decision through

Glorianny Fri 31-May-24 13:22:12

DiamondLily

The NEC need to make a decision, which hasn’t been done. So, it was and is unresolved.

Abbott saying she had been banned was inaccurate.

Whether she was genuinely confused, or whether it was just disruption, is unclear.

So on Friday 24th Sir Keir Starmer was saying the question of her reinstatement was "unresolved". On 28th a news story appears in the Times and the whip was restored. Now who is confused?

DiamondLily Fri 31-May-24 13:15:10

The NEC need to make a decision, which hasn’t been done. So, it was and is unresolved.

Abbott saying she had been banned was inaccurate.

Whether she was genuinely confused, or whether it was just disruption, is unclear.

Glorianny Fri 31-May-24 13:11:51

Wyllow3

Glorianny

Diane Abbott should of course have been permitted to stand as a Labour candidate. The rumour is that she was planning to resign anyway. If she had been allowed to stand and had declined because of her ill health Starmer would have had a wonderful PR opportunity. There would have been huge amounts of publicity about her and her outstanding career. He could have congratulated her and recognised her achievements. She could have retired gracefully.
Instead it's turned into a complete farce.

She was never "unpermitted" to stand. We would have heard about that when it happened.

It was the Times MSM article who stirred it up that she was banned and then came the reaction.

Guess is everyone was expecting an autumn election and the NEC and Abbott herself hadn't taken any steps as to her standing

Except that Starmer (as usual) has been unclear on the matter.
The agreed process after her statement was
Labour's NEC issued her with a "formal warning" for "engaging in conduct that was in the opinion of the NEC, prejudicial and grossly detrimental to the Labour Party".

It said it expected her to undertake an "online, e-learning module" which a source said was a two-hour antisemitism awareness course.

Ms Abbott did the module in February, after which it is understood she received an email from Labour's chief whip acknowledging she had completed it

However, as recently as Friday, Sir Keir had been saying the investigation into her comments was not "resolved
So her standing as an MP was absolutely not certain.
Diane Abbott had done what was required why the NEC did not reinstate her after that is anyone's guess but the fact that Starmer was saying it was "unresolved" is a real clue.
I agree probably an election wasn't expected.

Kamiso Fri 31-May-24 12:56:54

MissAdventure

She,said that because Jewish people weren't made to sit at the back of buses, it somehow,wasn't such bad racism they faced.

Idoitic statement.

The Jewish people didn’t sit at the back of the bus because they WEREN’T ALLOWED TO GET ON THE BUS. They couldn’t work in their professions, own a businesses or send their children to school plus numerous other restrictions.

The Jewish population has been hounded out of their homes and countries for thousands of years. Weren’t a number slaughtered in York at some point.

Pretty sure Diane Abbot did some disastrous interviews not having the necessary facts and figures and trying to bluff them with disastrous results. The timing of this altercation couldn’t be worse and seems as if revenge is more important than the Labour Party. Might be tactical from Corbyn’s point of view. He was quite good at fudging facts himself and creating impressions that were untrue, like most MPs from all parties.

The desperation of left wingers to excuse the inexcusable whilst slamming the Conservatives at every opportunity, reminds me of the period when we lived under an aggressively left wing council with a population of Tea Time Trotsky’s. Some things never change!

LizzieDrip Fri 31-May-24 12:45:55

That was to Annie

LizzieDrip Fri 31-May-24 12:45:10

Yes, she should have stepped back, thought about it and contacted someone at Labour HQ for clarification, before reaching immediately for Twitter.

Murdoch’s News International is hardly known for honesty & integrity in its reporting!

Casdon Fri 31-May-24 12:43:59

Sarnia

Rishi Sunak on the lunchtime news says this matter was resolved 5 months ago so why didn't Labour act upon it then. If true it's lousy timing because it doesn't make the Labour Party look good.

How exactly would Rishi Sunak know anything about it?

Anniebach Fri 31-May-24 12:38:58

Definitely easy to do , false news . Abbott moved so quickly after that press release