Election strategies (mine!)

Maremia

Is it true that Trump would not be allowed to visit the UK, as he is now a convicted felon?

I wish this were true but I suspect that it would only work the other way, if he were a Brit wanting to visit the US. Still, I live in hope!

Just to stir things up a bit... Biden professes to loathe the UK and does his utmost to damage it, whilst Trump (disgusting man, horror of horrors!) is very pro British! what a choice

I usually follow elections closely - less so this year as politics seems to have fallen to a new low in terms of probity and credibility. My concern this year is the clash of dates - election and Wimbledon. I like to follow wall-to wall coverage of Wimbledon play and will not take kindly to sharing air time with election coverage....

I don't think that there has ever really been a "special relationship." Every American president is USA first, which is natural. They expect us to help them but only give their help when it suits them and even then there are always strings attached. Don't forget, that the UK only stopped repaying the USA for their help in WW2 in 2006. The interest on the loan was prohibitive. No wonder the country was broke for such a long time afterwards.

I will of course be voting for the same party as I have done for over 50 years, the only party which has Wales at it's heart.

Wheniwasyourage

Surely you wouldn’t prefer the idiot Trump,*Freya5*? No reason why any US president should like us, is there?

No there isn't and no I don't. We have had a good working relationship with the US Presidents, until Biden, although why your twisted thoughts should mention Trump I dont know, I didnt.

Thank goodness we don’t have to choose an American President. Awful choice for them, I don’t envy anyone there. The British choice is not so bad, neither of them are monsters or doddery old men. Count your blessings. You will survive.

Always stay up for the results.
Listen to debates but they will never sway me. Given th choices there is only one party with reasonably decent morality and decent MP’s. It’s about the ethics and what they stand for not particular policies which can fail or not be sanctioned in the future

Someone here says there is a ‘simple’ choice between Conservatives and Labour. In my humble opinion it’s really not that simple. Would that it was! Both parties are so similar these days, the choice is not as stark as it once was. Both parties, when in power, have had some pretty miserable failings. Both promise the earth but so much is undeliverable without large injections of cash which is near impossible with the economy in such poor shape. The NHS is a perennial thorny question but the amount of money it would take to bring it up to standard is eye watering. It costs so much now that other, much needed, departments suffer. Should we be looking at another model of funding? No one’s brave enough to say that out loud, are they? The politicians carry on, playing to our insecurities and fears, making ridiculous statements and attacking each other. I have no faith in any of them. I fear this country is in a state of managed decline and we have no visionary leader to head it off.

Just wondering how many of you have received election flyers, canvasing or any info at all about candidates in your area. We have received a total of ONE which was from our local MP (Coservative) who fairly regularly does a news leaflet. I have no idea who is standing, how many are standing or which parties are standing so I think I have a no brainer decision.

Just done a search.
The UK and 12 other countries, including the US, do not admit convicted felons. There are about 22 who do not allow entrance if a felony is discovered. However there are others, including Russia, that do allow felons.

I live in a 'safe' Conservative seat and haven't had a flier from them for years. However, the Liberal Democrats, who do a good job locally, drop regular newsletters and will probably drop a flier. I don't know what the other parties might do but I suspect Labour will.

Freya5

fancythat

The "special relationship" thing is really a one way street. From us to them. Not vice versa unless it suits. In my opinion,

Tha ended when bigoted Biden was elected. No other Presidnt has shown such dislike for the UK. Learnt at his Grannies knee no doubt.

Well at least he didn't barge the late Queen out of his way!

Given modern communications I doubt one can avoid the GE. What we do need to avoid is another 14 years of the likes of Johnson and Truss

weeducky

Just wondering how many of you have received election flyers, canvasing or any info at all about candidates in your area. We have received a total of ONE which was from our local MP (Coservative) who fairly regularly does a news leaflet. I have no idea who is standing, how many are standing or which parties are standing so I think I have a no brainer decision.

Deadline for selection of candidates is 7th June. Only previous MPs who have not retired or been deselected know they are running for sure, so others won't have put out personal literature yet. Campaigning is generally on party lines until next weekend.

07-JuneFriday
Deadline for submitting or withdrawing a nomination (4pm)
Publication of statement of persons nominated (5pm)
commonslibrary.parliament.uk/timetable-for-the-2024-general-election/

I know who I'm voting for and it won't be Conservative
Rishi is a dictator and totally out of touch with the poorer members of our society.

Amalegra

Someone here says there is a ‘simple’ choice between Conservatives and Labour. In my humble opinion it’s really not that simple. Would that it was! Both parties are so similar these days, the choice is not as stark as it once was. Both parties, when in power, have had some pretty miserable failings. Both promise the earth but so much is undeliverable without large injections of cash which is near impossible with the economy in such poor shape. The NHS is a perennial thorny question but the amount of money it would take to bring it up to standard is eye watering. It costs so much now that other, much needed, departments suffer. Should we be looking at another model of funding? No one’s brave enough to say that out loud, are they? The politicians carry on, playing to our insecurities and fears, making ridiculous statements and attacking each other. I have no faith in any of them. I fear this country is in a state of managed decline and we have no visionary leader to head it off.

One of the reasons that the NHS costs so much now is that it has been being slowly privatised since Margaret Thatcher required outsourcing, and the taking of the cheapest bids (whether they did the best job or not) and Tony Blair insisted on using private money to take on structural repairs and project.
The interest from PFI is still being taken out of the NHS budget, as is the cost of Dido Harding's £37million test and trace scheme, which the NHS always said wouldn't work and it didn't, but they still have to pay.
Blood work and other lab testing is no longer done 'in house' so there is competition to get the cheap and easy work and difficulties and expense trying to process the rest.
Every time an appointment goes to a private hospital or clinic (because 'choice' and 'getting queues down') it costs the NHS extra, and if anything goes wrong the patient comes back to the NHS because private medicine has no Emergency Dept ot facilities or insurance for less than usual cases.
If the money which has gone (and is going) to private companies (and their boards and shareholders) had all gone to the NHS then the buildings might not be deteriorating and the funds for actual care might still be there

Thank you for pointing that out Seakay, I was getting ahead of myself. Will be a bit more patient and hope for some more info through the post etc. My inclination is usually to vote for the person rather than the party but this time it seems more difficult ....old age I guess!

ixion

Undecided?
You are not alone!

Quite….my only decision so far is keep Farage FAR FAR AWAY from any form of government post!

weeducky

Just wondering how many of you have received election flyers, canvasing or any info at all about candidates in your area. We have received a total of ONE which was from our local MP (Coservative) who fairly regularly does a news leaflet. I have no idea who is standing, how many are standing or which parties are standing so I think I have a no brainer decision.

NONE so far — South West Wales here!

Freya5

Wheniwasyourage

Surely you wouldn’t prefer the idiot Trump,*Freya5*? No reason why any US president should like us, is there?

No there isn't and no I don't. We have had a good working relationship with the US Presidents, until Biden, although why your twisted thoughts should mention Trump I dont know, I didnt.

Thank you for accusing me of having "twisted thoughts"!

It was you who called Biden "bigoted" and in spite of the odd independent candidate who might or might not appear, the only alternative for the poor Americans is Trump, so you may be able to understand why I could assume that you would prefer him.

madeleine45

I will, of course, be voting in the election, and will be prepared to look at the various ideas laid out - using my own brain to choose between lists of 1. sensible suggestion 2. total carrot for election purpose only 3. unbelievable 4. con etc etc. But I also have my own after 9 pm , or I think in my case probably after 7 pm deadline when it comes to tv or radio, where the off button and the mute button will come into play, as I do not want to go to bed seething or furious. I have already practised this whenever I have see that lunatic in the USA Trump talking rubbish. It is fine when you are able to discuss in person with others whatever you wish , and good to hear other points of view , but when you are alone it is no good shouting at the tv! I am a rugby fan and do not follow football at all. I used to have a friend who came round to get away from a house full of football. I might offer a politic free zone for a break as the election gets nearer!! Think it might be quite popular.

Trump may talk rubbish but at least we can understand the man, on the other hand, Biden talks gibberish- it’s embarrassing to listen to & shame on his wife letting him get up on that podium, I would yank him right off that stage if he was my husband 😩

Two main parties will spout the usual shite. No back bone either of those leaders- but I do think labour will will win hands down- but my vote will go to reform as this country is going down the pan & that is thanks to the Blair government & the tories letting all these migrants in

I live in a safe seat and have joined Make Votes Matter to promote Proportional Representation. We have boundary changes this year which has moved us into another equally safe seat.... although I would say the other party seem to be working hard to make inroads. I get so annoyed about elections where my vote simply doesn't count - nor I might add do the 24,999 votes received in excess of the one needed for the First Past the Post system. I appreciate there are issues with having many parties represented in parliament, but I so wish I had a vote that actually matttered.... The Brexit vote was the first time I ever felt counted.

Amalegra

Someone here says there is a ‘simple’ choice between Conservatives and Labour. In my humble opinion it’s really not that simple. Would that it was! Both parties are so similar these days, the choice is not as stark as it once was. Both parties, when in power, have had some pretty miserable failings. Both promise the earth but so much is undeliverable without large injections of cash which is near impossible with the economy in such poor shape. The NHS is a perennial thorny question but the amount of money it would take to bring it up to standard is eye watering. It costs so much now that other, much needed, departments suffer. Should we be looking at another model of funding? No one’s brave enough to say that out loud, are they? The politicians carry on, playing to our insecurities and fears, making ridiculous statements and attacking each other. I have no faith in any of them. I fear this country is in a state of managed decline and we have no visionary leader to head it off.

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