Seems Farage has an announcement to make at 4pm today.

I can’t find anything intelligent to say about Farage

yellowfox

This constant stream of Farage bashing is appalling.
These childish comments make you no better than the squabbling Conservatve party.
If you have nothing intelligent to say about public figures - say nothing!

Even though his own modus operandi is to create hate and division?

You support him and his racist views then?

This constant stream of Farage bashing is appalling.
These childish comments make you no better than the squabbling Conservatve party.
If you have nothing intelligent to say about public figures - say nothing!

Thank you too.

Wyllow3

Ok thank you.

Urmstongran

growstuff

Urmstongran

DiamondLily

Brexit has been a failure. Even Farage says that. 🙄

Erm, he says it because the Tory government didn’t enact the possibilities open to us DiamondLily. Sluggish, half hearted he actually said. I agree!

Nearly half the population didn't want those "possibilities". Have you ever heard of democracy and consensus?

I have indeed growstuff what a silly question.
The ‘majority’ (who could be bothered on the day) voted Out.
Now, THAT’s democracy at work - right there. (Even though you didn’t like the result).
‘Nearly’. Yes. I understand.
But even losing by one vote gives a majority to the other side.

Democracy isn't some kind of penalty shoot out with a single winner. It's actually supposed to be about all the people being represented. In the case of the referendum, the result was nearly 50/50, so there wasn't a clear "winner". In any case, none of us was told exactly what we were voting for and what would replace the EU in our relations with other countries.

Well you would say that Whitewave really as your vote landed on the side that didn’t win the majority in the referendum.

Yes I’m disappointed Brexit wasn’t made the most of and Boris let us down.

But now? It’s time to move on, be pragmatic (both sides) and make the best of what we have. And hope Labour can do a great job for UK interests.

Democracy is where you vote for a political party and have the chance to change every 5 years.

It is time to revisit what we voted for regarding Brexit, and change our minds if we see fit.

Although I don’t se another referendum being the way forward - far too divisive.

We need political parties to pick up the baton.

growstuff

Urmstongran

DiamondLily

Brexit has been a failure. Even Farage says that. 🙄

Erm, he says it because the Tory government didn’t enact the possibilities open to us DiamondLily. Sluggish, half hearted he actually said. I agree!

Nearly half the population didn't want those "possibilities". Have you ever heard of democracy and consensus?

I have indeed growstuff what a silly question.
The ‘majority’ (who could be bothered on the day) voted Out.
Now, THAT’s democracy at work - right there. (Even though you didn’t like the result).
‘Nearly’. Yes. I understand.
But even losing by one vote gives a majority to the other side.

No Brexit didn't stop migration because the Torys let us down and Brexit was not implemented properly

I think that this sentence from Nn's post gives us a fairly strong clue as to what she thinks a 'properly implemented Brexit would have done.

Of course, it was 'properly implemented'. The legal side was properly done and we have left the EU as 'advised' by a slightly larger number of people than those who 'advised' that we remain a member.

MayBee70

He’s swanning around in a tank in France today; cheap publicity stunt on such a somber day of remembrance. Despicable man.

He never misses an opportunity, no matter how disrespectful and inappropriate. 😑

Growstuff asked, "what would proper implementation have been".

I do genuinely want to know what wasn't done as at the time it was described by all as a "hard" Brexit.

BevSec I'm sure that you and others supporting reform here don't get "whipped up".

I was describing how certain sorts of politicians function - as history has shown all too well.

Writing and illustrating "every dictatorship in history has started by creating fear of "the others" and "them", and whipping it up with rhetoric"

is not a personal attack on anyone here.

Urmstongran

DiamondLily

Brexit has been a failure. Even Farage says that. 🙄

Erm, he says it because the Tory government didn’t enact the possibilities open to us DiamondLily. Sluggish, half hearted he actually said. I agree!

Nearly half the population didn't want those "possibilities". Have you ever heard of democracy and consensus?

Nicenanny3

Wyllow3

Frustration and helplessness are understandable but every dictatorship in history has started by creating fear of "the others" and "them", and whipping it up with rhetoric. Farage's background is very far right - BNP, pro Enoch Powell, anti semitism, anti muslim.
We saw it in the Brexit poster that he was forced to withdraw.
Farage "heroically" standing - but did Brexit stop migration anyway!

No Brexit didn't stop migration because the Torys let us down and Brexit was not implemented properly, they had the power an 80 seat majority to do anything they wanted and they let Britain down. The Brexit Party stood aside to help them gain that majority and they squandered it.

What would proper implementation have been? Nobody knew before the referendum what leaving the EU would actually mean.

Urmstongran

DiamondLily

Brexit has been a failure. Even Farage says that. 🙄

Erm, he says it because the Tory government didn’t enact the possibilities open to us DiamondLily. Sluggish, half hearted he actually said. I agree!

Farage moved his wealth away to the EU, obtained dual nationality and cleared off to live with his French lady friend.

And left the rest of us to deal with the mess.

BevSec

We are all entitled to our own opinions without being disparaged for them pascal 30.

There was no need to be rude to Wyllow either.

We are all entitled to our own opinions without being disparaged for them pascal 30.

BevSec

Wyllow3 your superiority really shines through! Do I feel “whipped up” by “rhetoric?” Very disparaging!

Hardly disparaging.. spot on more like..

Maybe MayBee but maybe not.

Maybe it’s because they weren’t prepared to break international agreements, ones that were ignored by the leave campaign.

DiamondLily

Brexit has been a failure. Even Farage says that. 🙄

Erm, he says it because the Tory government didn’t enact the possibilities open to us DiamondLily. Sluggish, half hearted he actually said. I agree!

Wyllow3 your superiority really shines through! Do I feel “whipped up” by “rhetoric?” Very disparaging!