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Was this really necessary France 🇫🇷?

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Urmstongran Thu 06-Jun-24 16:21:18

“British paratroopers who dropped into Normandy ahead of D-Day commemorations were met by French border officials.

Hundreds of soldiers jumped into the same rural drop zone which was used on D-Day 80 years ago on Wednesday.

Footage shows soldiers wearing camouflage combat gear walking towards a temporary customs check and producing their travel documents.

French security officials, who were standing behind a wooden desk with two laptops on top, then checked their passports.“

That was in the Telegraph earlier.

Surely, the Soldiers' Passport Details could have been collated by the F.O. or Miltary body for D-Day Commemoration and presented in a single document?

NotSpaghetti Thu 06-Jun-24 19:48:28

No. wwm, not at all.

Galaxy Thu 06-Jun-24 19:43:26

As its one of the only threads without hashtags and promises of gold nuggets, quite possibly it was.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 06-Jun-24 19:40:13

Was this thread really necessary.

halfpint1 Thu 06-Jun-24 19:22:55

So if there were 'hundreds' of paratroopers dropping in maybe
some 'terrorist' could have infiltrated from the shore and not be noticed untill some dire act had been committed and then the
French woud be accused of poor security. There have been
alot of such attacks in France , they come in all shape and sizes.
Producing your I.D. here is not a problem but always appears
to be an affront to a British Human Right.

petra Thu 06-Jun-24 19:12:55

MaizieD

OMG. petra followed the script!

I was just waiting for someone to say that no-one asked to see passports in 1944 🙄

Someone had to say it 🤷‍♀️

Greyduster Thu 06-Jun-24 18:50:24

The women’s services certainly counted on D-Day and the run up to it. They (mostly WRNS) were heavily involved behind the scenes on the operational side, as they were, also, throughout the Battle of Britain.

vegansrock Thu 06-Jun-24 18:47:02

When they arrived in 1944 they were greeted with German bullets , so they didn’t just stroll in that day.

Wheniwasyourage Thu 06-Jun-24 18:33:11

My late DF was tickled pink when he and my late DM visited Arromanches some years ago, and got in for a reduced rate as he was a veteran (as was she, but the women's services maybe didn't count!). He was nowhere near Normandy in 1944, but with the Royal Navy elsewhere, but that still counted.

RosiesMaw Thu 06-Jun-24 17:58:09

I am reminded of a story, possibly apocryphal of an elderly American who was having trouble with an over-officious French passport control jobsworth.
"I didn't get this sort of trouble last time I came to your country, son" the American protested
"I'm sure you would have, monsieur" replied the official snootily "the regulations have always been like this, when exactly was that?"
"6 June 1944" came the reply.

Dingleberry Thu 06-Jun-24 17:53:06

These idiots check passports of serving soldiers but let in every Tom Dick and Harry that come in on a rubber dinghy. Perhaps the French don't need to check illegal immigrants records as they will ship them all off to the UK on the day they arrive.

Glorianny Thu 06-Jun-24 17:48:43

Surely it's all to do with the fact that they (like the rest of us) are only allowed so long each year in the Schengen area, so their passports have to be stamped.
It's a real problem for some people. Our tour guide recently told us one border official started checking his passport stamps and trying to add up his times in case he'd been there too much.

Wyllow3 Thu 06-Jun-24 17:46:36

I'm sure that the security and risk management arrangements were planned and agreed to beforehand by a French/British team working together.

We don't know any threat assessment levels and best options were in the planning.

DiamondLily Thu 06-Jun-24 17:46:24

I watched some of it on TV, and from French schoolchildren up to pensioners, there was nothing shown but gratitude and respect.

The memorial they have built was lovely.

Let’s not use today as a French/`EU bashing day.😗

charley68 Thu 06-Jun-24 17:45:57

I'm very sure that the UK would want to see the passports of any military person who is visiting here, whether on exercise or not.

My passport was checked both in and out of Afghanistan when I was in the TA. The RAF took us in and out - they did the checking.

MaizieD Thu 06-Jun-24 17:31:34

OMG. petra followed the script!

I was just waiting for someone to say that no-one asked to see passports in 1944 🙄

MaizieD Thu 06-Jun-24 17:27:14

Kim19

Please can we just have some peace and gratitude today?

I think that the OP is working on the lines that the French ought to be grateful to the British for liberating them (singlehandedly of course) and demanding passports is just motivated by spite at the UK having left the evil EU and the French never liked us anyway...

I thought it was an amusing episode and it's a ridiculous thing to be indignant about.

petra Thu 06-Jun-24 17:22:16

Dinahmo

Ladyleftfieldlover

That’s a bit harsh Siope.

No it's not.

Too true it’s not.
Nobody asked to see passports in June1944 did they.
No!!!! They were grateful to us and all the other countries involved who delivered their freedom.

Joseann Thu 06-Jun-24 17:19:56

Kim19

Please can we just have some peace and gratitude today?

Try the DDay thread. It's very interesting and respectful.

Joseann Thu 06-Jun-24 17:18:52

I'm more concerned why Macron keeps turning up late to major events in his own country? Has he got a dodgy watch? I thought he was known for his expensive collection of Longines. Today, nearly 20 minutes late at the DDay memorial service which started without him. Yesterday, nearly an hour late in Brittany to honour the parachutists.

petra Thu 06-Jun-24 17:17:30

Another try.

Yongy Thu 06-Jun-24 17:13:43

Oreo

Maybe they thought they were illegal immigrants dropping in?
😄 I can’t see much harm in having a passport check, but yes I see your point about the MOD, they could have provided a list.

Of course their credentials had to be checked, it would be unwise not to have done so.

I think the ceremony went really well and the elderly D-Day veterans were given the status they deserved, well done France. smile

petra Thu 06-Jun-24 17:13:40

Siope

So you’d be okay if a few hundred young male foreigners arrived onto British soil and were just allowed in with no checks?

We are no longer in the EU; we cannot just pop in and out as if we are.

Honestly, I sometimes wonder if you ever understood what you were actually voting for in the referendum.

What do these paratroopers look like to you.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 06-Jun-24 17:13:06

It’s the rules. Why nitpick on today of all days? Did you see the paratroopers complaining?

Greyduster Thu 06-Jun-24 17:09:59

I find that a bit odd. I don’t know what period the journalist is talking about but as an Army wife who lived and travelled in five different countries between the sixties and the eighties, I had to have both an ID card and a passport. I have it somewhere with all the visa stamps in it. My children also had to have passports. My husband of course had his service ID card but also had a passport. Perhaps someone will tell me if I have been dreaming this?

Kim19 Thu 06-Jun-24 17:09:20

Please can we just have some peace and gratitude today?