Is this the way the Tories are heading?

Strangely enough Primrose, I live across the road from our excellent Labour candidate. All my family and friends will be voting Labour. Even my Tory son in law has ‘ had it with that lot. They’ve no idea about how some people really struggle’. He has his own successful business but we are happy to welcome him back from the Dark Side. Oh yes - he voted Remain and Brexit has affected his business negatively - of course it has

I take back what I said about there not being a Labour candidate here. Because I have not seen a single Labour board or sign anywhere with a 20 mile radius of my home I assumed nobody was standing.

Apparently a female teacher with a double barrelled name has been selected. Not a chance in hell I’d say as they have not won here in 60+ years. 🤣🤣

You’re obviously mixing with the wrong crowd then Primrose53 we all have our crosses to bear I guess.

Casdon

More people want a Labour Government than want Farage though Primrose53. It’s karma.

I personally don’t know of a single person who wants a Labour government. That’s counting friends, neighbours, customers etc. i don’t think there’s a Labour candidate even standing in our area, not that I would vote for them if there was!

I think we all are if we are left of centre Iam64 x it’s the cross Primrose53 thinks we bear!

the problem is people who do t like him think everyone should agree with them. Just like the Brexit vote. They will go to their graves bitter and twisted because their side didn’t win

Phew - evidence for this please ? It certainly isn’t here on gransnet. Bitter and twisted ?! Who is 😂

More people want a Labour Government than want Farage though Primrose53. It’s karma.

Philippa111

God help us if Farage becomes prime minister... from very bad to even worse!
Politicians are a motley crew as far as I'm concerned ... more interested in personal power than real progress and it seems they will say anything to get that power.

You might not like him but plenty do.

He was in Great Yarmouth last night and the venue was packed and they were turning people away.

The problem is people who don’t like him think everyone should agree with them. Just like the Brexit vote. They will go to their graves bitter and twisted because their side didn’t win. They just cannot accept that more people wanted us to leave the EU.

Comparing Farage with the majority of politicians misses the point by a country mile. I don’t agree that politicians are a motley crew … more interested in personal power than real progress …Will say anything to get that power

God help us if Farage becomes prime minister... from very bad to even worse!
Politicians are a motley crew as far as I'm concerned ... more interested in personal power than real progress and it seems they will say anything to get that power.

The Tories are heading to the far right with the present regime.People prefer middle of the road policies without the click bait Fascism which keeps rearing its ugly head and spreading hate and xenophobia.Brexit seems to have made our country more intolerant, it only seems to benefit the super rich and Tory donors who are lining their pockets atthe taxpayers expense.

Sign of the times - Sunak is to the right of One Nation Conservatives who used to be centre stage.

Babamaman

I pray for neither - don’t want him in the house - he never attended the EU parliament - took the salary, still takes the pension ! Again will be laughing all the way to the bank!
Farage has absolutely no policies for the good of this country, his no.1 priority is himself and how much he can top up his bank account and we won’t see him for dust!

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MaizieD

The interesting part will be seeing which way the new cohort leans. Will it be right wing or more centrist?

Sadly my guess is more right wing! I think Sunak is pretty centralist really

I pray for neither - don’t want him in the house - he never attended the EU parliament - took the salary, still takes the pension ! Again will be laughing all the way to the bank!
Farage has absolutely no policies for the good of this country, his no.1 priority is himself and how much he can top up his bank account and we won’t see him for dust!

The first item on the conservative Manifesto is the Conscription scheme, which may attract a few but has widely been rejected, and we now have the supposed saving of 17 billion on tax cuts. Which will really be a continuation of austerity. When will us Brits accept that you can't get health and care and education considerations - but not pay for them?

No. Just no. He is a disgrace.

maddyone

Sunak has to lead the party into the election, despite knowing the outcome before the event. It would be sheer cowardice to leave now. Mind you, after leaving the D Day commemorations early……..

I don’t think Sunak has any intention of quitting, at least not until after the election. But I do think his party, y’know the one that gave us the unelected Liz Truss as PM because they thought she was fit to lead the country, is quite capable of trying to replace him with some sort of populist leader if it might keep them in power.

Sunak should sack Braverman from the Party for disloyalty. As to where are the Tories heading: clearly in a mad panic towards the political exit.

Who of the far right are likely to loose their seat is also factor.

One Portillo moment for me would be Braverman.

Sunak has to lead the party into the election, despite knowing the outcome before the event. It would be sheer cowardice to leave now. Mind you, after leaving the D Day commemorations early……..

The interesting part will be seeing which way the new cohort leans. Will it be right wing or more centrist?

I think MaizieD makes a good point about choosing a new leader from the cohort who are elected. Changing the leader now would not change what happens at the election, but it could result in the wrong choice of hastily appointed leader, who may even not be re-elected. Regroup after the election and then reform is surely the way forward.

I think that there is a level of panic in the Tory party that they have never experienced before, and panic does not make rational or good decisions.

There can't be a tory alive who believes that their party can actually win this election, the very most they can hope for is damage limitation.

According to the voice of X/twitter no party has ever changed its leader in the middle of an election campaign. What would be the point? It couldn't be done in the time available, the most they could achieve would be an interim leader chosen from ..... where? (Technically there are no tory MPs any more.)How would that attract any more than a handful of votes?

They'll do just as well to wait a few weeks and let him resign. Once they have their new MPs they'll have a better idea of the future.