Is this the way the Tories are heading?

Farage for Prime Minister, he says it how it is.

I think Braverman should defect, she is probably further right than Reform are, and good riddance. There doesn’t appear to be much support for her in the parliamentary Tory Party though, from what I can see on the outside looking in.

It's the way Farage would like the tories to go, certainly.

I will be interested to see both manifestos to see where/if they coincide.

I hope the Tories s are better at their maths than Farage.

He got completely muddled/lost when trying to defend his squillions of tax cuts/spending plans yesterday on Kuenssberg.

What bothers me is that, if the tories really bomb and can't even form an opposition, it will still be the Right, (i.e. Farage) that gets the maximum amount of coverage in the media. Lib Dems and Greens will still be largely ignored.

I suspect that Farage being poor at maths will have no adverse effect whatsoever on his followers. They believe everything he says. You only have to look at the prospective Teform voters on here. Not a single explanation of what policies attract them, just blind belief.

I had a look at Reform's twitter feed and their web page yesterday. It's like a rerun of the Brexit campaign with a bit of fairytale economic statements thrown in.

He's a modern-day Pied Piper. One step on from the Buffoon.

Farage has become the Tories lifebelt. Both will sink without trace in a few weeks time. Clacton may get him as their MP but PM? No.

I’m hoping Starmer will continue to try and keep Labour extremists from dominating . Successive Tory pm’s have absolutely failed to keep the rabid right in check

He is a nonentity who gets far too much airtime and should now be ignored by the media who made him.

He doesn't even want to be an MP, let alone a PM.

Attending any meeting in the European parliament was far too much hard work for him, but oddly claiming the most expenses wasn't.

Iam64

I’m hoping Starmer will continue to try and keep Labour extremists from dominating . Successive Tory pm’s have absolutely failed to keep the rabid right in check

Tell who is the "rabid right". Oh yes people you disagree with.
Well Rayner is the rabid left, along with Abbott. Starmer will not be able to keep them in check, he even rolled over to let Abbot back in to get the votes.

We won’t know how much impact Farage makes until Election Day a lot of voters share his aims and prejudices whether Labour or Tory voters. We saw in the Brexit vote not all Labour are socialists, however do we really see Reform winning many/any seats?

Dingleberry

Farage for Prime Minister, he says it how it is.

He says quite a lot. Based on what he knows people want to hear.

But that's not necessarily "how it is".

I grant you however that:

He is a master of the theatrics of politics, with a ready knack for oratory and a capacity to ad lib in fluent argument – and spot and capitalise on gaps in the political debate left by the Tories and Labour. (Chris Mason, Political editor BBC)

Predictions are maybe 4 seats for Reform. 3 more than the Greens (Caroline Lucas) has had for years!

Freya5

Iam64

I’m hoping Starmer will continue to try and keep Labour extremists from dominating . Successive Tory pm’s have absolutely failed to keep the rabid right in check

Tell who is the "rabid right". Oh yes people you disagree with.
Well Rayner is the rabid left, along with Abbott. Starmer will not be able to keep them in check, he even rolled over to let Abbot back in to get the votes.

The rabid right is Farage, Braverman, and judging by his recent rantings, Johnson - and his remaining coterie of the Bullingdon crew. Rabid is a good description judging by the fact bypasses their brains have undergone. The rabid left is George Galloway. I believe both Corbyn and Abbott are spent forces now. If you think Rayner is rabid left you haven’t been doing any homework at all.

Casdon - thanks for your response. I’m losing the will to debate given the ill informed comments from ‘some posters’.

It’s lashing out season for the right Iam64, only four and a bit weeks to go and I expect it will then settle down to a distant rumble of discontent again.

keepingquiet

He is a nonentity who gets far too much airtime and should now be ignored by the media who made him.

He doesn't even want to be an MP, let alone a PM.

Attending any meeting in the European parliament was far too much hard work for him, but oddly claiming the most expenses wasn't.

👏👏👏👏👏

Iam64

Casdon - thanks for your response. I’m losing the will to debate given the ill informed comments from ‘some posters’.

As I am. I do understand “some” posters don’t like Rayner but she’s certainly not “rabid left”

There are some alarming fractions in the Conservatives currently who are loose cannons like Truss. Hopefully they’ll lose their seat and whoever does take the reins has a strong and sane opposition.

I’m now in the “wait and see what happen on July 4th camp”, I’m already weary of some of the rot I read in the media which is then sometimes regurgitated on social media sites such as this.

Cossy

Iam64

Casdon - thanks for your response. I’m losing the will to debate given the ill informed comments from ‘some posters’.

As I am. I do understand “some” posters don’t like Rayner but she’s certainly not “rabid left”

There are some alarming fractions in the Conservatives currently who are loose cannons like Truss. Hopefully they’ll lose their seat and whoever does take the reins has a strong and sane opposition.

I’m now in the “wait and see what happen on July 4th camp”, I’m already weary of some of the rot I read in the media which is then sometimes regurgitated on social media sites such as this.

My goodness what a pompous being you come across as. Poor you having to read comment that doesn't align with your left wing views. I do read, and you seem as ill informed about anything other than your own views, oh and how other people should think. Rayner is a loose cannon, she challeges Starmer very chance she gets, why do you think he has kept her out of the limelight recently.

Whitewavemark2

I will be interested to see both manifestos to see where/if they coincide.

I hope the Tories s are better at their maths than Farage.

He got completely muddled/lost when trying to defend his squillions of tax cuts/spending plans yesterday on Kuenssberg.

I don't think anyone is worse at maths than Abbott.

As Diane Abbott is no longer a key figure in the Labour Party, tossing in irrelevancies about her maths is pointless. I seem to recall that Priti Patel couldn't even say numbers correctly let alone compute them, but it's all water under the bridge and not relevant to the future direction of our politics.

Rayner is out of the limelight because she is busy campaigning and no one is trying to implicate her in any manufactured scandal.

Freya5

Cossy

Iam64

Casdon - thanks for your response. I’m losing the will to debate given the ill informed comments from ‘some posters’.

As I am. I do understand “some” posters don’t like Rayner but she’s certainly not “rabid left”

There are some alarming fractions in the Conservatives currently who are loose cannons like Truss. Hopefully they’ll lose their seat and whoever does take the reins has a strong and sane opposition.

I’m now in the “wait and see what happen on July 4th camp”, I’m already weary of some of the rot I read in the media which is then sometimes regurgitated on social media sites such as this.

My goodness what a pompous being you come across as. Poor you having to read comment that doesn't align with your left wing views. I do read, and you seem as ill informed about anything other than your own views, oh and how other people should think. Rayner is a loose cannon, she challeges Starmer very chance she gets, why do you think he has kept her out of the limelight recently.

Freya5, you aren’t up to speed. Rayner has not been out of the limelight at all, she was the Labour Rep in the big debate on BBC1 on Friday, she’s out campaigning on the Labour bus, she’s been in the news a lot. I get that you don’t like her, but what you’re saying isn’t the truth.

Dingleberry

Farage for Prime Minister, he says it how it is.

How is it?

Isn't 'how it is' a matter of opinion? There is more than one way to look at life, you know.

Iam64 I have lost the will to debate after being castigated for giving my views (on a different thread). Apparently I get too ‘het up’.

So I’ve stepped back from the fray, but still enjoy following the views expressed by you and others (who perhaps don’t get quite so ‘het up’)