Gransnet forums

News & politics

Smear Keir - desperate Tory tactics!

(79 Posts)
CvD66 Mon 17-Jun-24 15:39:18

In a desperate attempt to reduce Labour’s influence, the Times is reporting that Tories are encouraging the PM to go after Starmer personally, with a smear campaign. It smacks of 13 year old bullies trying to put down the popular kid or as its known in America, Trump techniques. Would it encourage you to change your vote? After all Boris Johnson tried it!

Casdon Thu 20-Jun-24 12:22:34

They have tried eazybee, many times. However, it’s like comparing an amateur footballer to Ronaldo in terms of the harm done to the reputation of the party and the UK comparing Starmer to Johnson. One of the biggest problems for the Tory leadership at the moment is the very boringness of Starmer, people with clean reputations are hard to find these days. We don’t condemn every Tory MP who endorsed Johnson, or Truss for their misguided or foolish support, do we?

eazybee Thu 20-Jun-24 12:10:20

After years and years of personal attacks on Boris Johnson, (and there are still people whose only line of defence when cornered is, well, it's not as bad as Boris) I am amazed Tories haven't attacked, legitimately, Starmer's lies about his support for Jeremy Corbyn.

2020convert Thu 20-Jun-24 11:53:44

Cossy

I meant ALL parties. I’m not interested in what they think about other parties, only their positive ideas and how it’s going to be funded!

👏👏

Lizzie44 Thu 20-Jun-24 11:47:37

Lies, smears and name-calling have always been a part of election campaigns. Candidates behave like children in the playground. Best ignored. Decide which Party represents the values and policies that you adhere to, ignore the personal attacks and smears, and most importantly go out and vote.

Zoe65 Thu 20-Jun-24 11:30:35

Certainly wouldn’t listen or watch anything posted by james o brian the biggest leftie ever known .

meddijess Thu 20-Jun-24 11:12:59

Sorry - I posted in response to ronib's post saying that she had already posted her postal vote!

meddijess Thu 20-Jun-24 11:10:49

Me too!

Curtaintwitcher Tue 18-Jun-24 06:59:16

I think it might have the opposite effect to that intended. It's true that Starmer keeps changing his stance on everything so called him 'Mr Flip-flop' is appropriate. However, personal attacks are juvenile and don't enhance the party doing the name-calling.

sassysaysso Tue 18-Jun-24 05:55:09

There is of course no need for Labour to smear the Tories as the horrors of the last 14 years of Tory government speak for themselves.

maddyone Tue 18-Jun-24 00:23:54

It doesn’t matter to me what they say about each. It won’t make me change my mind about any of them. This sort of thing has been happening during elections for donkeys years.

henetha Tue 18-Jun-24 00:06:11

They are all as bad as each other in their desperate attempts to get power.

Oreo Mon 17-Jun-24 18:53:03

Remember the ‘evil eyes’ posters made to smear Blair? 😄 Didn’t work, he got into power easily.

Casdon Mon 17-Jun-24 18:32:25

The Tories did it in the last election, with Jeremy Corbyn. I don’t recall him trying to smear them, he was kept busy dodging bullets from all-comers. It’s much harder to smear Starmer I suspect, he isn’t a soft target.

Oreo Mon 17-Jun-24 18:22:53

It happens every GE time tho doesn’t it, one side issuing smears and threats about the other side, unless real substance or new info then nobody really gives a toss.

Casdon Mon 17-Jun-24 18:07:37

This is an interesting reflection from James O’Brien on LBC about Sunak being urged to smear Starmer, what issues a smear might cover and why previous attempts haven’t worked. Really worth a watch.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=haLr8Qf0hio

Cossy Mon 17-Jun-24 17:59:44

I meant ALL parties. I’m not interested in what they think about other parties, only their positive ideas and how it’s going to be funded!

Mollygo Mon 17-Jun-24 17:59:20

Cossy

Mollygo
This claim sounds more like an attempt to smear the Tories.

I saw this statement on the times headlines today.
I know, but what I said is what I meant.

Grantanow Mon 17-Jun-24 17:50:04

People who live in glass houses...

ronib Mon 17-Jun-24 17:20:50

My postal vote arrived this morning. I filled in my vote and posted it back. Now I can forget all about it! Great!!

LizzieDrip Mon 17-Jun-24 17:20:23

It won’t influence me one iota - I know exactly who I’m voting for. The Tories can smear away to their hearts’ content - just makes them look even more desperate!

Aveline Mon 17-Jun-24 17:16:31

It's free for all smear fest! No point in watching the News or reading the papers. It's just snipe snipe snipe at each other.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 17-Jun-24 16:24:50

Smear campaigns at election time have been going on for as long as I have been voting.

Nothing new or original.

Cossy Mon 17-Jun-24 15:57:26

It’s totally ridiculous to be honest

Cossy Mon 17-Jun-24 15:57:10

Mollygo

This claim sounds more like an attempt to smear the Tories.

I saw this statement on the times headlines today

twinnytwin Mon 17-Jun-24 15:52:48

This doesn't bother me - all the parties are smearing each other all the time. Look at the adverts being used. We had a post on Saturday with a link to voting tactically to keep the Tories out. Nobody felt aggrieved with that.