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What immediate changes will the new Labour government make?

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Kandinsky Sun 23-Jun-24 08:32:24

Assuming they win ( which is 99% likely )
What improvements are we likely to see within their first year in office?

MaizieD Tue 25-Jun-24 11:12:37

Baffles me, too, maddyone. But there was a lot of fuss about out of date PPE during the crisis.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Jun-24 11:18:23

MaizieD

Baffles me, too, maddyone. But there was a lot of fuss about out of date PPE during the crisis.

I can only assume it was to do with the sterility of the products.

They do have best before dates on them.

Ona different note they take between 100 and 400 years to decompose in landfills.

Callistemon213 Tue 25-Jun-24 11:55:33

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD

Baffles me, too, maddyone. But there was a lot of fuss about out of date PPE during the crisis.

I can only assume it was to do with the sterility of the products.

They do have best before dates on them.

Ona different note they take between 100 and 400 years to decompose in landfills.

The materials can degrade over time making them less effective and efficient.

MayBee70 Tue 25-Jun-24 15:10:39

Sure start mentioned by our local Labour candidate today whilst visiting what used to be a Surestart centre…
‘Things used to be so different under a Labour government. A recent report showed that children from poorer backgrounds who attended Surestart centres got better GCSE results than their peers we didn’t. THAT is the difference a government makes’.

Mollygo Tue 25-Jun-24 16:15:44

MayBee70, are they going to bring them back? I haven’t read anything about that anywhere, but it seems as if that’s something Labour ought to do.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 25-Jun-24 16:17:43

They still exist.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Jun-24 17:12:53

Sure Start Centres still exist (there is one up the road from me)

Originally there were 3,620 there are currently 2,204.

Mollygo Tue 25-Jun-24 17:24:46

I’m sorry, the way people talk it seems that they were all closed. I know the one nearest me was closed, because it reopened as a support unit for families with children with ASC and other conditions. The need for that was deemed greater and the Sure Start usage had been dwindling for several years.
My DD used it with my DGS who has ASC.

Casdon Tue 25-Jun-24 17:29:22

Good report here - due to Local Government funding cuts, some centres are hanging on by a shoestring now, others have closed. This report details the success factors, one of the critical ones is accessibility.
ifs.org.uk/articles/sure-start-achieved-its-aims-then-we-threw-it-away

MayBee70 Tue 25-Jun-24 17:37:52

The one my prospective MP visited was no longer a SureStart centre. It’s good that so many are still open but knockers of the Labour Party must admit it was a pretty good initiative and shows how committed they were/are to giving children a good start in life from the very beginning.

Lizzie44 Tue 25-Jun-24 18:17:50

This whole debate depresses me. We can only guess what changes the new government will make. One of the few things that probably most of us agree on is that the country is in a mess. I feel sorry for our young people and they go unmentioned in the debates. They have lost out in recent years following on from Covid and they face an uncertain future in an unstable world. Politicians, many of them disohonest and self-serving, ignore the young. Meanwhile, many of us obsess about whether the next government will put our taxes up. Has any politician considered the young in their electioneering? Well, yes, Rishi. And the best he could come up with? A form of national service.

Iam64 Tue 25-Jun-24 18:42:24

I heard Blunkett and on a separate interview, Gordon Brown hoping the Labour Govt wil reinstate SureStart. My town had one of the first centre of excellence family centres. It closed as a result of austerity when our council could scarcely meet statutory duties.
I worked in one for two years post retirement, focus parenting skills, dads group, cooking, budgeting, baby massage etc etc. It closed and became a young offenders centre during austerity.
Like other centres it did good work with vulnerable children and their families.
Cameron decided they weren’t reaching the families who ‘needed’ them, but were dominated by families like his. Not in Blackburn, Burnley, Bolton, Accrington etc they weren’t

MayBee70 Tue 25-Jun-24 18:52:04

This is what my prospective MP said
‘This children’s centre used to be a thriving hub of activity, not just crucial health visitors and midwife appointments. I can’t wait to see it become that again under a Labour government’.

Iam64 Tue 25-Jun-24 19:32:43

Exactly MayBee70. One of the best had a the family centre, primary school, health centre with midwives/health visitors and a duty presence from the substance misuse, mental health and social work teams.
This was in a former mining area, no mines, no work and once proud miners on heroin. Army of grannies and aunties stepping in to care for children whose parents were in no state to provide safe care.

Ilovecheese Tue 25-Jun-24 20:29:21

I think one of the first things a new Labour Government will do is to pay private nursing homes for beds so that people who are ready to leave hospital can use them, thus freeing up hospital spaces. (This is something they have said they want to do) This may solve one problem but may lead to a lack of nursing home places. it will also be expensive so may have been more cost effective in the long term to invest in either Local Authority or NHS new nursing homes.

The other thing I think they will do quickly is pay private health companies to do relatively uncomplicated operations like hip or knee replacements ( not saying they are easy to do, just not as complicated as some others) to bring down waiting lists. Another short term solution. When the waiting lists are brought down those private companies are not going to gracefully bow out, they will want to remain in place in the NHS.

Iam64 Tue 25-Jun-24 20:52:32

The NHS already pays private companies to get the wait list down. I had surgery last week at a private hospital paid for by nhs
I agree there will be more of this

Primrose53 Tue 25-Jun-24 21:07:54

I also had a minor op at our regional NHS hospital but the staff came up from the Portland Clinic in London to do it. Great service.

Last year my husband was all gowned up in a private hospital but on the NHS for a back op but his BP was dangerously high so they couldn’t operate.

Ilovecheese Tue 25-Jun-24 21:56:47

I know this already happens. Streeting wants a lot more of it.

Casdon Tue 25-Jun-24 22:05:17

He’s right to want a lot more of it in the short term, the priority at the moment is to treat people, to bring the waiting lists down, and using private facilities, and most importantly, staff, is the only way until the NHS can be resuscitated because there is only overtime as an NHS resource now, and it would take years to make a difference.

ronib Wed 26-Jun-24 06:11:00

Leanne Mohamad is standing as an independent against Wes Streeting because of the Labour Party’s position on Gaza. So a bit premature to say that Wes Streeting will be an mp.

Calendargirl Wed 26-Jun-24 06:55:45

To me, back in the pandemic, inferior PPE would have been better than the bin bags that we heard were being used in some places.

Iam64 Wed 26-Jun-24 08:03:38

Streeting overturned a Conservative majority by ariund 5,000 votes at the next election. It seems more likely he’ll retain his seat than lose to a single issue independentn

ronib Wed 26-Jun-24 08:53:24

Ilford North constituency changes have increased the number of Muslim voters by about 9k.

Casdon Wed 26-Jun-24 09:15:42

ronib

Ilford North constituency changes have increased the number of Muslim voters by about 9k.

According to the bookies it’s 2/20 that Streeting will win, I don’t think he’s sweating.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 26-Jun-24 09:53:58

They did it before they will do it gain.